Why won't Floyd just drop his demand?

[IMDAZED]

Destroy what argument? You stated Manny asks for something and Floyd, ofcourse will ask something in just for the sake of it. So, why ask for something that would kill the fight? Sorry but I can't understand coz I'm not pretending to be an expert like you, but anyone who is confident of beating someone easily and gets so much in return would, in a heart beat drop his demands. Martinez would do it. Marquez for much much less would do without the OST. Why wouldn't Floyd?

Too many excuses. Floyd ain't cleaning up boxing and he ain't even sure if he can beat Pac unlike how you *****s and haters claim.

This post doesn't even make sense. You sound uber dumb now. And pathetic. You're arguing that Floyd should let Manny juice. I don't need to be an expert to tell you what that makes you look like

[BoxingFollower]

You missed the point.

He asked that since Floyd is saying that Pacman has no skills and can easily be defeated then whether Pac is on PEDS or not is a moot point. Unless... the "no skills" part is really just a wishful thinking and Floyd actually thinks that Pacman can defeat him.

If Manny turns out not to be on steroids, then it makes Mayweather look as to he's admitting that "Manny looks dangerous as ****".

However if he goes ahead to fight Manny, all that means that is "Mayweather conquered his fear" ya know

[BoxingFollower]

The reason is simply he wants to remain unbeaten and he dont want to lose to pac.

He is also under no pressure to fight Pac, because *****s dont put any pressure on him to fight Pac. *****s put all the blame on Pac for the fight not happening. Floyd is never in the wrong, and they wont hear that it was Floyds fault that he didnt fight Cotto or Margarito or anyone else as welll. They dont blame or care that he retires as well, so Floyd has nothing to worry about. What *******s say dont worry him, so why fight?

50 million only means something if you havent got anything in the bank, and we know he has a lot.

Just like *******s don't put any pressure on Manny to fight anyone GOOD, he fights the same guys that you guys pick on Mayweather about fighting, but when he ask to him to fight a YOUNG LION or someone who's not a 8-1 underdog, you guys are like OH NOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Any young fighter out there wouldn't be a 8-1 underdog, not Ortiz, Berto, Bradley, and especially not Martinez.

You guys enable Mannys cowardliness, and allow him to keep taking those easy fights, just like him now wanting to fight Marquez around 144, when it should be around 135 or such, because ROACH picked on Marquez and said he was bloated during the Mayweather fight.

[Barry Halls]

No, you're just ignoring the obvious.

But is Floyd really a more credible source? I mean honestly...

If Bob Arum/Pacquiao/whoever connected with that camp says they are fine with Floyds demand, Floyd should just call their "bluff" (if that is the case).

I really have a hard time thinking Floyd would let himself get ridiculed in media like this quietly.

[IMDAZED]

But is Floyd really a more credible source? I mean honestly...

If Bob Arum/Pacquiao/whoever connected with that camp says they are fine with Floyds demand, Floyd should just call their "bluff" (if that is the case).

I really have a hard time thinking Floyd would let himself get ridiculed in media like this quietly.

During the famous "second negotiations", Arum said they had agreed to all of Floyd's demands with testing. When finally pressed by the LA Times, he admitted they still wanted a cutoff.

During the first negotiation, Arum said he offered 14 days and Floyd turned it down. The neutral mediator said he was lying and that it was vice versa.

So is Floyd a more credible source when it comes to testing? Yes.

[pocket_rockets]

In all honesty, this will not be an easy fight, but this is mayweathers character talking... In all honesty I dont see Floyd losing to MANNY BUT JUST AS MANNY DOESNT WANT TO GIVE ANY ONE HE FIGHTS AN ADVANTAGE, WHY WOULD FLOYD TAKE A CHANCE THAT SOMEONE ON STEROIDS REALLY COULD SCORE A GOOD PUNCH THAT COULD END HIS UNDEFEATED LEGACY... This is boxing and I have seen people go down on ounches that didnt even seem that hard. You heard what mosley stated... the punch wasnt that hard, but he still went down. If I suspect someone of cheating, then I dont want to give them that advantage...

So now the question becomes if blood tests were actually going to disrupt manny's training then why was he supposedly willing to take the 14 days after the first round of negotiations?? Is it because he heard Floyd state that the negotiations for 14 days were now off??

I mean in all honesty PACQUIAO HAD MANY EXCUSES. THIS IS WHY HES SUSPECT....

I mean in all honesty no one expected Pacquiao to come up with so many excuses to avoid blood testing....... No one did. Floyd could never have known that he would have done this, but HE DID, HE EVEN TOLD BRIAN KENNY HE WOULD BE IN HEAVY TRAINING SO HAD HE FOUND A WAY TO BEAT THE 14 DAY TESTING IDEA SO THEN HE AGREED??

THINK ABOUT IT.

Atleast coming from you a Floyd winning without a chance of a scratch is not a certainty unlike many here are suggesting.

So, is it not possible for a test immediately after the fight? Assuming a blood test hours before a fight would really affect Manny, hence we are not getting the best out of both fighters. And if tested positive, assuming the 0.00001% that Floyd loses will the "L" still stand? Again, I'm no expert that's why I'm asking.

It shouldnt be a big deal for Floyd to risk a fight with Manny knowing a test (blood, urine, semen, whatever) after the fight will be conducted. It's not as if manny has already killed fighters in the ring before.

[IMDAZED]

Atleast coming from you a Floyd winning without a chance of a scratch is not a certainty unlike many here are suggesting.

So, is it not possible for a test immediately after the fight? Assuming a blood test hours before a fight would really affect Manny, hence we are not getting the best out of both fighters. And if tested positive, assuming the 0.00001% that Floyd loses will the "L" still stand? Again, I'm no expert that's why I'm asking.

It shouldnt be a big deal for Floyd to risk a fight with Manny knowing a test (blood, urine, semen, whatever) after the fight will be conducted. It's not as if manny has already killed fighters in the ring before.

Now the argument is treading toward ****** level. I think you need to shut up, go do a little research, maybe grow up, then come back. You sound dumb, my dude. And you are getting b*tch-slapped with every post you make.

[hugh grant]

Just like *******s don't put any pressure on Manny to fight anyone GOOD, he fights the same guys that you guys pick on Mayweather about fighting, but when he ask to him to fight a YOUNG LION or someone who's not a 8-1 underdog, you guys are like OH NOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Any young fighter out there wouldn't be a 8-1 underdog, not Ortiz, Berto, Bradley, and especially not Martinez.

You guys enable Mannys cowardliness, and allow him to keep taking those easy fights, just like him now wanting to fight Marquez around 144, when it should be around 135 or such,.

Fight anyone good? Barrera, Morales, Cotto etc, is better than anyone Floyd has ever faced so why would anyone put pressure on Pac to fight anyone? At least Pacs fans get to see him fight. Floyd fans dont put any pressure on floyd to do anything...they dont have to, they get off on fantasizing him beating Pac to a pulp and knocking him out, even though he couldnt knock JMM out.

Fight a young lion? Pac would be favourite, so next excuse please!
So now you want Pac the champ and king to drop down two divisions to fight the desperate for a fight JMM? No point in debating with a Pac hater like yourself for surre.

[JudgeDredd2011]

if Floyd didn't view Manny as a threat, of course he wouldn't care. He does. I think you're missing the point. This argument implies that Manny is juicing but since he'll probably lose, it shouldn't matter. How dumb is that?

No, the argument is that since Pacman has "no skills", then it shouldn't matter whether Pacman is "juicing" or not.

People say that Pacman's refusal puts the su****ion on him. I think it is really more of an ego thing. He originally had this well-documented bad experience with the Morales fight. But that was when he was struggling to make weight. It is understandable - if you're dehydrated, taking a tube of blood will be devastating, especially if you can't drink fluids because you still need to get weighed. So the reaction to the first negotiation is expected. Eventually his handlers probably convinced him that it will not have the same effect since he is now fighting in a higher weight class and does not really have to dehydrate to make weight - so the later move back to the negotiating table and the agreement to Floyd's cut-off date. Unfortunately Floyd changed the demands... and now it is really just an ego thing between the two.

[IMDAZED]

No, the argument is that since Pacman has "no skills", then it shouldn't matter whether Pacman is "juicing" or not.

If that's the argument then that is undoubtedly one of the dumbest things I've ever heard regarding this. Using this logic, no one except the top pound for pounders should be tested at all. Go petition that to the commission.