Why won't Floyd just drop his demand?

[Barry Halls]

During the famous "second negotiations", Arum said they had agreed to all of Floyd's demands with testing. When finally pressed by the LA Times, he admitted they still wanted a cutoff.

Oh. I didn't know that. That is ofcourse of much value to this discussion.

Do you have a link/source?

During the first negotiation, Arum said he offered 14 days and Floyd turned it down. The neutral mediator said he was lying and that it was vice versa.

This i know, and is part of the reason i would label Bob sneaky.

So is Floyd a more credible source when it comes to testing? Yes.

I'm not sure. I don't really trust either camp. Didn't Floyd/his camp say no negotiations were ever done last fall, then the hbo sports president said it had been?

I just feel that if Floyd wants the fight, he should be more active in media (espn etc) and call Manny/bob out on their bull****.

Same goes for Manny. He shouldn't stutter "i don't know, i don't need him, talk to my promoter".
Someone needs to man up and pursue this aggressively, or this **** will never happen.
fwiw, fans of boxing should also put all BS aside and just demand this fight take place. I mean, all the time spent on this "******* vs *****" nonsense could be put into more productive things.

[IMDAZED]

Oh. I didn't know that. That is ofcourse of much value to this discussion.

Do you have a link/source?


This i know, and is part of the reason i would label Bob sneaky.


I'm not sure. I don't really trust either camp. Didn't Floyd/his camp say no negotiations were ever done last fall, then the hbo sports president said it had been?

I just feel that if Floyd wants the fight, he should be more active in media (espn etc) and call Manny/bob out on their bull****.

Same goes for Manny. He shouldn't stutter "i don't know, i don't need him, talk to my promoter".
Someone needs to man up and pursue this aggressively, or this **** will never happen.
fwiw, fans of boxing should also put all BS aside and just demand this fight take place. I mean, all the time spent on this "******* vs *****" nonsense could be put into more productive things.

Floyd just released nine straight videos, and dropped a message that was posted on ever major sports site and channel. I think he's done enough.

And yes, I have a link for everything I stated. The question is, when I show you, will you find another excuse for Manny or will you keep it real going forward? Or will this alt just disappear?

[Xeraser]

Now the argument is treading toward ****** level. I think you need to shut up, go do a little research, maybe grow up, then come back. You sound dumb, my dude. And you are getting b*tch-slapped with every post you make.

are you gonna crucify Floyd if he grows a pair and fight Pacquiao without OST?

Or are you gonna call Floyd a fool for fighting without OST?

I know you could care less about OST

hypocrite.

[JudgeDredd2011]

If that's the argument then that is undoubtedly one of the dumbest things I've ever heard regarding this. Using this logic, no one except the top pound for pounders should be tested at all. Go petition that to the commission.

I think the intent of the thread starter is really to just expose the arguments of the so-called boxing experts that Pacman has no skills.

My opinion.. they should take blood a test and do the weigh-in the same night of the fight! If a fighter fails the test, he will not get paid anything.

[BoxingFollower]

are you gonna crucify Floyd if he grows a pair and fight Pacquiao without OST?

Or are you gonna call Floyd a fool for fighting without OST?

I know you could care less about OST

hypocrite.

LMAO, boy y'all surely don't want Manny to go back to 2005 Manny do y'all??
Because thats whats gonna happen if he gets off steroids, back to being outboxed and back to being KO'D.

[Xeraser]

Floyd just released nine straight videos, and dropped a message that was posted on ever major sports site and channel. I think he's done enough.

And yes, I have a link for everything I stated. The question is, when I show you, will you find another excuse for Manny or will you keep it real going forward? Or will this alt just disappear?

It's an staged interview with preordained questions. Floyd crave attention because guys like Mancini, Duran, Hagler, Rivera and Goosen believe Floyd does not want Manny. Floyd is trying to pursuade the public that he really wants to fight but only his gullible fans believed that.

[IMDAZED]

I think the intent of the thread starter is really to just expose the arguments of the so-called boxing experts that Pacman has no skills.

My opinion.. they should take blood a test and do the weigh-in the same night of the fight! If a fighter fails the test, he will not get paid anything.

If that's his intent then maybe he should make a thread about Manny's skills. Not one about PEDs. Unless he feels they're related.

[pocket_rockets]

Come on homie. All Floyd is asking for is a blood test. The **** ain't surgery.

So you saying Floyd is ****** for not dropping the only thing he ask for for 50mil bit you not upset that manny won't drink some orange juice for 50 mil.

Like seriously are you guys serious with this ****. Come on man stop it.

Like I said, what if it's true that Pac is not comfortable with blood taken possibly hours before the fight but is willing to take any sort of tests after the fight, wouldn't it be best for the fans since were getting the best out of each fighter? And if Floyd loses (which everyone doubts), then Pac tested positive what would happen? Will the "W" taken away from Pac and Floyd stays undefeated? If that's the case then a post fight test is more practical and might actually make the fight push through and that is what Floyd should demand if he really wants to expose Pac.

[Xeraser]

LMAO, boy y'all surely don't want Manny to go back to 2005 Manny do y'all??
Because thats whats gonna happen if he gets off steroids, back to being outboxed and back to being KO'D.

Sergio got his butt kicked before only he came back stronger

To paraphrase Maya Angelou

"You may encounter many defeats, but you must not be defeated. In fact, it may be necessary to encounter the defeats, so you can know who you are, what you can rise from, how you can still come out of it. "

[Barry Halls]

Floyd just released nine straight videos, and dropped a message that was posted on ever major sports site and channel. I think he's done enough.

Thats not mainstream media. It's done by a lackey at fighthype.

Obviously hes been doing a poor job with this, his public image is extremely bad right now when it could (and was) be viewed as Manny is avoiding the fight.

And yes, I have a link for everything I stated. The question is, when I show you, will you find another excuse for Manny or will you keep it real going forward? Or will this alt just disappear?

wtf is your problem?

keep what real? Have i done much else but asking simple questions? I havn't put any blame on either fighter.

Yes i would be happy to get the link, and i would use it without bias.

Not exactly a Pac-fanatic. Hated the fight vs Clottey, Margarito and Mosley. Hate JMM vs pac 3 even more and thing it's a disgrace.
I label myself a fan of boxing and not some ******ed **** who adores Floyd or Manny and would do anything to defend them. I just want the ****ing fight to happen, and im far from certain who i would root for. A double KO maybe?

And ye, not an alt. Sorry i Don't have time to post 20k+ of nonsense every year. I will try to do better wasting my time in NSB, or should i call it the pacvsfloyd forum.