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Isn't it funny how Pacquiao fans cant logically explain how Manny "beats Mayweather?"

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  • #41
    Originally posted by Jack Napier View Post
    Floyd is more of the boxer between the 2
    but it's not a boxer vs a KO puncher
    Pac's not this brutal punching headhunter he gets made out to be
    point is Floyd will have no choice but to alter his style for this fight
    not completely, but more offense and less defense
    his shoulder rolling won't pay dividends with Pac like it does with righties
    Pac is open to be countered when he sets and goes for damaging shots
    he lunges and doesn't move his head then
    when he attacks in bursts he's not easy to time
    Floyd's gonna have to take risks to win this fight
    defense and generalship aren't gonna cut it
    Pac will force him out of his shell defense and make him work
    Floyd's gonna be vulnerable, and against a quicker guy
    Both are going to be vulnerable. I see your point that floyd might have to be more aggressive. As for winning by UD. Floyd would just have to outbox him with great defense, pac might have a hardtime getting him out of that without taking damage. floyd doesnt have to completely do a shoulder roll, he could probably take 1-2 punches then land a counter. And for Pac, more activity and more combos than floyd?

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    • #42
      Originally posted by viewsat View Post
      Obviously there is one way to prove that :P and there is one thing preventing that...
      Actually it's been proven. Have you watched how floyd fights southpaws? Corley and Judah rocked him when he was using his philly shell. It's not rocket science bro when you are in that philly shell defense you are in line for a huge left hand. it is designed to neutralize orthodox fighters.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by johncods View Post
        Actually it's been proven. Have you watched how floyd fights southpaws? Corley and Judah rocked him when he was using his philly shell. It's not rocket science bro when you are in that philly shell defense you are in line for a huge left hand. it is designed to neutralize orthodox fighters.
        floyd adjusted and cruised to a victory. what did pacquiao do against marquez and morales for 12 whole rounds? oh yeah he continued to be outboxed and lost.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Body Movin' View Post
          floyd adjusted and cruised to a victory. what did pacquiao do against marquez and morales for 12 whole rounds? oh yeah he continued to be outboxed and lost.
          Dont you get that he cruised to victory against southpaws not as good as Pac. How simple is that?

          Morales is more aggressive than Floyd will ever be, and Pac beats boxers like JMM.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by viewsat View Post
            Both are going to be vulnerable. I see your point that floyd might have to be more aggressive. As for winning by UD. Floyd would just have to outbox him with great defense, pac might have a hardtime getting him out of that without taking damage. floyd doesnt have to completely do a shoulder roll, he could probably take 1-2 punches then land a counter. And for Pac, more activity and more combos than floyd?
            Floyd isn't a featherfist like some people call him
            he's not a dangerous puncher, but he commands respect
            his opponents get reluctant to rush him because they eat counters
            once that sets in, he starts leading and picks them apart
            Pac won't show him that amount of respect
            and he has the chin to take what Floyd gives him
            he'll get hit, but he won't take heavy damage
            his handspeed is a key favor
            Floyd can't time a guy who's faster than him as well
            and Pac attacks with more than 1 big shot nowadays
            Pac's flurries will get him out of his shell, landed or not
            Floyd will know he's giving away rounds if he doesn't open up
            Floyd countering too much loses him rds on activity
            Floyd going forward opens him up in ways he's never usually open
            and he's not gonna risk that enough to win

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            • #46
              Ayo Napier, learn to use Paragraphs then people might actually read your posts, its annoying.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by C. BRIGANTE View Post
                Ayo Napier, learn to use Paragraphs then people might actually read your posts, its annoying.
                carrying on a very thorough boxing conversation without you
                you don't have to read it if you don't want
                the other guy is keeping up and answering clearly

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Jack Napier View Post
                  Floyd isn't a featherfist like some people call him
                  he's not a dangerous puncher, but he commands respect
                  his opponents get reluctant to rush him because they eat counters
                  once that sets in, he starts leading and picks them apart
                  Pac won't show him that amount of respect
                  and he has the chin to take what Floyd gives him

                  he'll get hit, but he won't take heavy damage
                  his handspeed is a key favor
                  Floyd can't time a guy who's faster than him as well
                  and Pac attacks with more than 1 big shot nowadays
                  Pac's flurries will get him out of his shell, landed or not
                  Floyd will know he's giving away rounds if he doesn't open up
                  Floyd countering too much loses him rds on activity
                  Floyd going forward opens him up in ways he's never usually open
                  and he's not gonna risk that enough to win
                  Your fuckin' joking me right? I stopped reading after that.
                  He won't give Floyd that respect?

                  He gave Shane all the respect in the world by being extremely reluctant to go at him, fearing his right hand. Manny is not ******, and I get the impression he really does not like getting hit.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Jack Napier View Post
                    carrying on a very thorough boxing conversation without you
                    you don't have to read it if you don't want
                    the other guy is keeping up and answering clearly
                    Well this is my thread, I started it. Your welcome to post all I am saying is just try use Paragraphs that way your posts are much easier to read.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                      Dont you get that he cruised to victory against southpaws not as good as Pac. How simple is that?

                      Morales is more aggressive than Floyd will ever be, and Pac beats boxers like JMM.
                      don't you get that poochiao struggled and went life and death against boxers not as good as mayweather? how simple is that?

                      even old ass shane made poochiao look pedestrian. this supposed to be the best southpaw in the game! come on hugh where those manuscripts?

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