Isn't it funny how Pacquiao fans cant logically explain how Manny "beats Mayweather?"

[JOM'S]

Any knowledgeable and perceptive boxing fan can compose an argument in favour of a Pacquiao or Mayweather victory. The reason that there tends to be further elaboration from Mayweather fans is simply because there are a greater array of flaws in Pacquiao's game in comparison with the lesser number of flaws in Mayweather's game to dissect, elucidate and expound upon.

nice post and agreable bro ....

imho although PAC has a lot of flaws as we all know, no one since Erik and Juan Manuel has able to take advantage of them to beat Pac, its a lot easier on paper to dissect but totally different in the ring...

[studentofthegam]

in a nutshell, Pac is faster than Floyd and won't gas like Zab did
in detail:

Pac outworks Floyd every rd, he can steal rds on sheer activity
Pac's been hit by harder punchers than Floyd since he moved up
Floyd can stun Pac but he can't KO him, he'll take his shots
Pac's faster than Floyd with his hands and with his feet
Floyd's not used to facing that kind of challenge
Floyd retains his defense vs leftys, but not as well as orthodoxes
Pac won't concede a decision and hunt for a big KO punch
he doesn't have to settle for that like other Floyd opponents do
Pac will get to the body, he makes it a point in all his fights now
Pac has problems with guys who can both box and brawl
Floyd took chances leading vs a slower Shane and Chico
he'll be forced to counter with Pac due to Pac's speed
Floyd isn't confident at all about this fight, hence his refusal
Pac will attack him enough to put him in his place
fighting a pace he don't like will tire Floyd, even if he stays accurate
Pac has been active while Floyd's been retired again
Pac will beat Floyd, if/when Floyd grows a pair of balls

First of all we've seen Pac get tired when somebody is hitting back. Secondly, If he didnt throw a thousand against Mosley who barely threw punches then come on bruh dont be blind. You act like countering Pac is something we havent seen before. I also remember Marquez rocking that granite chin with a medium powered shot. If Marquez can wobble him Im sure Floyd can.

[C. BRIGANTE]

nice post and agreable bro ....

imho although PAC has a lot of flaws as we all know, no one since Erik and Juan Manuel has able to take advantage of them to beat Pac, its a lot easier on paper to dissect but totally different in the ring...

Of course no one has exploited them flaws he hasn't fought anyone on there level since then, Mayweather is much better then both Morales and Marquez.
You can argue that Pacquiao has gotten much better in reference to his speed, punch output and combination's but his defense is just as weak.

Marquez countered him easily, Manny in my opinion has purposely dodged counter punchers since then, And rightly so Marquez made him look amateurish at times.

What I agree on is Manny has improved but he has not improved in the areas in which Morales and Prime Marquez exploited. The trouble Marquez/Morales gave him in seth areas, Floyd is much much better. E.g. Counter punching, Defense, Ring movement and all round Boxing intelligence.

[viewsat]

Of course no one has exploited them flaws he hasn't fought anyone on there level since then, Mayweather is much better then both Morales and Marquez.
You can argue that Pacquiao has gotten much better in reference to his speed, punch output and combination's but his defense is just as weak.

Marquez countered him easily, Manny in my opinion has purposely dodged counter punchers since then, And rightly so Marquez made him look amateurish at times.

What I agree on is Manny has improved but he has not improved in the areas in which Morales and Prime Marquez exploited. The trouble Marquez/Morales gave him in seth areas, Floyd is much much better. E.g. Counter punching, Defense, Ring movement and all round Boxing intelligence.

i think roach gives pac a full gameplan on his fighters and tendencies. what if someone didn't follow those tendencies and adopted some other defense and adapted to pac's style? Floyd adapts. pac may too

[noStylez]

nice post and agreable bro ....

imho although PAC has a lot of flaws as we all know, no one since Erik and Juan Manuel has able to take advantage of them to beat Pac, its a lot easier on paper to dissect but totally different in the ring...

Great post...

That's why if they both step in the ring, all questions will be answered.

[Jack Napier]

First of all we've seen Pac get tired when somebody is hitting back. Secondly, If he didnt throw a thousand against Mosley who barely threw punches then come on bruh dont be blind. You act like countering Pac is something we havent seen before. I also remember Marquez rocking that granite chin with a medium powered shot. If Marquez can wobble him Im sure Floyd can.

we've seen him slow down, not flagrantly tired, even in the Terrible loss
Floyd has shown good stamina at a measured pace when he's in control
he took over against Corley and Zab, was active when he wanted to be
didn't say Pac would get off 1000 punches vs Floyd, that's unrealistic
just said he'll definitely outwork him in each rd
Floyd will have no choice but to work more or get shaded
who mentioned Mosley? that fight don't mean shit :laugh:
never said Floyd wouldn't counter him, he absolutely will
admit Floyd can stun Pac, he just won't stop him
people need to stop the JMM comparisons
Floyd's better than him, but he's a lot more cautious
that will work in Pac's favor in this style clash

[viewsat]

we've seen him slow down, not flagrantly tired, even in the Terrible loss
Floyd has shown good stamina at a measured pace when he's in control
he took over against Corley and Zab, was active when he wanted to be
didn't say Pac would get off 1000 punches vs Floyd, that's unrealistic
just said he'll definitely outwork him in each rd
Floyd will have no choice but to work more or get shaded
who mentioned Mosley? that fight don't mean shit :laugh:
never said Floyd wouldn't counter him, he absolutely will
admit Floyd can stun Pac, he just won't stop him
people need to stop the JMM comparisons
Floyd's better than him, but he's a lot more cautious
that will work in Pac's favor in this style clash

he might get flagrantly tired if floyd rope-a-dopes him. floyd can dodge punches quite well. Like think about it, there isn't that many angles for pac to create if floyd is rope-a-doping in a corner. maybe true on the side

[jvsnypes]

Basically, all Floyd has to do to beat Manny is fight him the same way that Shane did, but throw punches.

[viewsat]

Basically, all Floyd has to do to beat Manny is fight him the same way that Shane did, but throw punches.

i honestly think that the Floyd's key to a clear victory is constant jabs to the body to disrupt rhythm.

[Canelo Phresh]

come on Phresh
you're better than this cop out shit on your good posting days :laugh:

my assesment? floyds hand speed is better than mannys. mannys foot speed is another story. the ******* myth that floyds legs are gone is a joke to me hes just decided to stay in the pocket against lesser oponents. not that he hasnt slowed down at all. marquez counters pac all night and gets hit as well for the exchanges. floyd is just to elusive for manny. after the margo dismantling i gave manny my best chances against floyd ever. after the shane flop i just dont see it. not trying to guess the wear and tear factor on either but based off of both guys last fights floyd wins a relatively easy decision. theirs some oohs and aahs but its another day at the office for floyd.