Who has a better chin: Wlad or Lennox?

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  • enadeus
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    #11
    This is an easy one, Lennox Lewis.

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    • Parodius
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      #12
      Lewis has the better chin, but Lewis never had a great chin. Wlad was getting rocked every time Peter landed a punch.

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      • Torino
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        I hate questions like this. There are so many variables it's impossible to give an intelligent, scientific answer. Even the term "weak chin" itself is an inaccurate, slang term for someones ability to take a punch. The "chin" itself actually has little to do with it. Most judgments about "weak chins" are just speculation and averages. (guessing)

        The unconscious state of being knocked out is caused by the "jelly like" brain tissue impacting the cranial walls. Getting hit on the chin is typically the optimum target area to cause such a brain/cranial impact. Depending on punch velocity, punch trajectory, cranial structure, brain tissue density, neck strength, neck length, and countless other variables. Therefore, there are many ways to force that impact and cause a knock out.

        Now that I've said all that, Wlad Klitschko may have some physical attributes that make him more susceptible to being knocked out, but I don't think that can be judged just because he has been knocked out. Any and ALL people can be knocked out. Countless great champions and boxers have been knocked out. In fact, It's rare to find those that haven't been knocked out at some point in their career. It's the nature of the sport.

        In Wlads case, I think there's a lot of misconception about the way he takes punches. He is a tall, lanky, awkward fighter with a long neck and when he gets hit, those variables give the appearance of Wlad being rocked, when in fact, he's just awkward. I'm not saying he's never hurt, but I think a lot of those situations when people think he's hurt after a punch is actually just the effect of his natural lankiness.

        He's just awkward and not graceful.

        The term "weak chin" is a general term used to describe someones ability to take a punch based on cranial structure, brain tissue density, chin length, overall head mass, neck strength, neck length, and endless other physical variables.
        Last edited by Torino; 09-26-2005, 01:20 PM.

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        • paul750
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          #14
          Originally posted by Torino
          I hate questions like this. There are so many variables it's impossible to give an intelligent, scientific answer. Even the term "weak chin" itself is an inaccurate, slang term for someones ability to take a punch. The "chin" itself actually has little to do with it. Most judgments about "weak chins" are just speculation and averages. (guessing)

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          Yes but with respect, there's a thing called common sense, and that would tell most people Lewis had the better chin surely, it's like power, no one knows excactly how hard a boxer punches, but most people have a good idea, for obvious reasons.

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          • Nautilus
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            #15
            Originally posted by enadeus
            This is an easy one, Lennox Lewis.

            I think Wlad has just a slightly better chin. Wlad was never KOed like Lennox was. He was KDed, but he was able to get up and fight after KDs.
            Last edited by Nautilus; 09-26-2005, 01:32 PM.

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            • guru
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              #16
              its a toss up.... lewis was never hurt as many times as wlad, but then wlad never got one punched KO'd and lewis never got up off the floor to win either...

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              • Torino
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                #17
                Originally posted by paul750
                Yes but with respect, there's a thing called common sense, and that would tell most people Lewis had the better chin surely, it's like power, no one knows excactly how hard a boxer punches, but most people have a good idea, for obvious reasons.
                So it's like I said, it's an opinion or a guess. No facts can back it up. You say "surely" when there is no way to be sure. It's not common sense, maybe Lennox simply defended his vulnerabilities better.

                Power can be measured.

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                • moochi
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                  full of ****..........lennox was ko'd twice and twice only..........he has a strong chin, but no-one is invincible....

                  how many times was lennox actually on the canvas in his 40 odd fights? this shows his chin!!

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                  • Torino
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by moochi
                    full of ****..........lennox was ko'd twice and twice only..........he has a strong chin, but no-one is invincible....

                    how many times was lennox actually on the canvas in his 40 odd fights? this shows his chin!!
                    Maybe Lennox just had better stamina

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                    • !! Anorak
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                      With all due respect, this is a ridiculous question... Wlad seems to go down nearly every time he's hit. If this was Wlad or Herbie Hide it might (and even then only MIGHT) be a question. Lennox didn't have a great chin by any means, but it was never THAT bad.

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