why all of a sudden is groves the underdog????explain.

[SirTomJones]

The answer to why Groves is the underdog is simple.

DeGale has improved at a faster rate than Groves.

[J.R]

The answer to why Groves is the underdog is simple.

DeGale has improved at a faster rate than Groves.

A false impression against inferior opposition.

[SirTomJones]

A false impression against inferior opposition.

Groves has fought better opposition?

put a billion on it.

[PRINCE O' PROSE]

A false impression against inferior opposition.

There isn't a gulf in class of opposition. Adamu is maybe Groves' best scalp, but that guy labored with (and arguably should have lost to) Carl Dilks, a guy DeGale blew away. A lot of people would fancy Smith over Anderson in a fight. You can argue this stuff around both ways.


Looking at what both guys consistently do in the ring is more telling at this stage than the nuances in their limited opposition, IMO.

As I said, even Groves' best performances display tell-tale signs.

[J.R]

There isn't a gulf in class of opposition. Adamu is maybe Groves' best scalp, but that guy labored with (and arguably should have lost to) Carl Dilks, a guy DeGale blew away. A lot of people would fancy Smith over Anderson in a fight.


Looking at what both guys consistently do in the ring is more telling, IMO.

As I said, even Groves' best performances display tell-tale signs.

Truth.

Now, onto Anderson / Smith, that'd be a good'un.

I suppose as you say the triangle or quadrilateral theory in this case is irrelevant. Because as much as Adamu is Groves' biggest scalp (name-wise otherwise you could argue Anderson) then Smith would be DeGale's agreed? And I just refuse to acknowledge that Smith fight, he just wasn't himself. Whether or not DeGale just made him look bad, Smith just fought plain - poop.

[J.R]

As I said, even Groves' best performances display tell-tale signs.

As can be expected for somebody who has fought 12 times, and to be fair the same can be said about DeGale, I'd agree that DeGale at this point is the more polished, and normally the boxer prevails over the fighter, but, not always......

[PRINCE O' PROSE]

LOL, I'd like Groves to catch DeGale with something and knock him out.


George is the more likeable guy and he's the more 'fun' fighter. DeGale's a dullard and I don't see his potential as being *that* great; I don't care if he gets derailed.


I just foresee a rough night for George is all. He'll have worked hard for this one and tried to prepare for everything DeGale does, but I think he's playing catchup and I expect him to be outcrafted.

[PRINCE O' PROSE]

And it just fully dawned on me that we're only about 77 hours away from this fight...so we'll have our answers soon.

[BOLLOCKS]

Does it matter?

I'm rooting for Groves, btw..

[haverespect]

No evidence, merely what I stated in that exact post you quoted, if you were Warren, would you put your main prospect in with somebody as supposedly dangerous as Smith? Without insurance? Or the guarantee your money spinner would come out on top???

Really?

Frank wouldn't.

So no, it's not nonsense, at all.

I disagree no-one likes Degale as a person he has A limited fanbase very unmarketable... The guys a jerk but he's blessed with skills.

in all fairness to yourself though he does have some potential if managed right and maybe sent over to america they could perhaps build on some good wins and the gold medal and try and make him into a star

He's not indispensible , Warren has worked with many greats throughout the years , he knows talent and he believes in Degale.

No disrespect fella , but I'll stick with what I said I think your wrong , no proof , too far fetched. I know I only got a measly 30k lol but ill happily bet it all with you on Degale over Groves.

Groves is a nice kid but he's got no chin or defence and he's getting either knocked out or TKO'D.