Is Andre Ward the most complete fighter in boxing?

[THE REED]

i kinda think so right now honestly.....the man can do it all....floyd is not a better pressure fighter than him, not a better inside fighter than him , not a better counterpuncher than him.....

He was fighting dead even on the inside with Froch.... And seriously...floyds not a better counter puncher than ward?

I dont even know what to say to that.

[Filo]

cant you ****en read?...

Ward is GOOD. Floyd is great.Ward is a GOOD boxer.Floyd is an amazing, great counter puncher.See the difference?

[puga]

He was fighting dead even on the inside with Froch.... And seriously...floyds not a better counter puncher than ward? I dont even know what to say to that.

according to who.....ward was outworking him on the inside....do you honestly think floyd is a better inside fighter than ward ?.....lol

ward was countering a finalist with left hooks and right straights throughout the fight...when has floyd ever done that as much as ward did last night?...besides floyd's right straight counter, when has he countered an opponent as much as ward did with froch ...vs a fighter you can compare to a froch caliber fighter? ....dont give me ricky hatton either...

[CHOWWOKKA]

Hate to be obvious, but Floyd is.

Hate to be obvious, but Floyd is.

Hate to be obvious, but Floyd is.

Hate to be obvious, but Floyd is.

[THE REED]

according to who.....ward was outworking him on the inside....do you honestly think floyd is a better inside fighter than ward ?.....lol

ward was countering a finalist with left hooks and right straights throughout the fight...when has floyd ever done that as much as ward did last night?...besides floyd's right straight counter, when has he countered an opponent as much as ward did with froch ...vs a fighter you can compare to a froch caliber fighter? ....dont give me ricky hatton either...

Did you honestly see how slow Froch was last night?

Its laughable Floyd is a better inside fighter?

I dont even like the Floyd, but hes without a doubt the best counterpuncher in the game, and nobody needs to go through his resume to prove it... Watch his fights for christ sake.

It doesnt mean Ward isnt a good counterpuncher... But quicker, more accurate than Floyd?

[puga]

Ward is GOOD. Floyd is great.Ward is a GOOD boxer.Floyd is an amazing, great counter puncher.See the difference?

lol....nice breakdown...lol...im not arguing who's greater....ward is a more versatile counter puncher than floyd, thats eveident....you take out floyd right pllcounter and he counters with nothing else...unless youre talking about pitty pat left hooks at close range....dont give me ricky hatton either when he got caughtwith that lead left...

[puga]

Did you honestly see how slow Froch was last night?

Its laughable Floyd is a better inside fighter?

I dont even like the Floyd, but hes without a doubt the best counterpuncher in the game, and nobody needs to go through his resume to prove it... Watch his fights for christ sake.

It doesnt mean Ward isnt a good counterpuncher... But quicker, more accurate than Floyd?

lol...yeah, froch always fights like that....did you not see how slow balomir was and ward looked hell of a lot better than floyd did vs baldomir....and we all know frcoh is levels above baldomir....

and yeah, it is very laughable to suggest floyd is a better inside fighter than ward, no doubt about that....in fact , if floyd was such a good inside fighter , he would've beaten jlc convincingly but he did not....

you missed wards left hook counters last night, i guess...ward is it not quicker than floyd tho....accuracy is unclear department when it comes to measuring counterpucnhing skills....

[THE REED]

lol....nice breakdown...lol...im not arguing who's greater....ward is a more versatile counter puncher than floyd, thats eveident....you take out floyd right pllcounter and he counters with nothing else...unless youre talking about pitty pat left hooks at close range....dont give me ricky hatton either when he got caughtwith that lead left...

You really think Floyd only counters with the left against Hatton? He did it to Castillo, and Corrales... Did it to Judah, and Mosley... And you can call Floyds hooks pitty pat, but dont act like Ward is knockin dudes over with his..

Against I dont even like Floyd, but wtf.

[-Hyperion-]

Timmeh skills....................doesnt need to clinch so much....and his headbutts are because of recklessness, ward's are a bit more fishy...

[THE REED]

lol...yeah, froch always fights like that....did you not see how slow balomir was and ward looked hell of a lot better than floyd did vs baldomir....and we all know frcoh is levels above baldomir....

and yeah, it is very laughable to suggest floyd is a better inside fighter than ward, no doubt about that....in fact , if floyd was such a good inside fighter , he would've beaten jlc convincingly but he did not....

you missed wards left hook counters last night, i guess...ward is it not quicker than floyd tho....accuracy is unclear department when it comes to measuring counterpucnhing skills....

Nah, last night was exceptionally slower than normal.

Why choose one of Floyds slowest opponents to make your case?

No it isnt laughable... Well in the first fight Floyd had an injury, nit too mention he wasnt as polished at the time, and in the second fight he didnt need to.. He beat him in the rematch convincingly.. So yes he did.

I didnt miss anything... I saw Wards nice counter lefts against an incredibly slower 34 year old man... Sure they were good, evidence hes better than Floyd? Doubtful.