Carl Froch and Lucian Bute are both better P4P than Andre Ward

[The Hammer]

Will the pampered, over-protected Andre Ward be willing to fight outside California in the Super Six final?

Or will he demand the fight be in California, where he can have a crooked referee like Jack Reiss to allow him to headbutt, hit off the break and hit while holding?

[Bushbaby]

Don't worry,ur theory will be put to the test.

[Ko King 212]

Ward wants to fight in Vegas. Try again.

[D4thincarnation]

Ward wants to fight in Vegas. Try again.

That's because even he is embarrassed by the hometown decision he has been getting.


Froch should be ranked higher but not Bute

[The Hammer]

Ward wants to fight in Vegas. Try again.

If that is true, it means he must feel he can have a crooked referee in Las Vegas to let him headbutt, hit while holding and hit off the break.

The fight should be in Nottingham, UK, not in the US.

But Ward is a coward who will never fight a contender outside the US.

[Marchegiano]

Will the pampered, over-protected Andre Ward be willing to fight outside California in the Super Six final?

Or will he demand the fight be in California, where he can have a crooked referee like Jack Reiss to allow him to headbutt, hit off the break and hit while holding?

Hey Bud, is this a thread about Froch, Bute and Wards skills or a thread *****ing about American lenience for rules?

I dunno how the **** you throw Bute in on this....your argument is stronger without him....I dunno why you actually think Froch's a better boxer....you've not said **** about him really you've just *****ed about Ward cheating....which...if you can't cheat than **** you. When Rocky sent ****el through the ropes by way of rabbit shot ****ell complained about how Rocky cheats...To which the Rock replies "boxing is a full contact sport'......would do wise to consider the constitution of a boxer who can't handle a cheater.....it's like superman *****ing the lex luther has no real power he just gathers ******nite....If Froch can't handle "cheating" than he's not that good...his ring generalship need worked on. Just like a guy who can't handle a slugger. or a guy who can't handle the ol' pop shot and circle left running backwards routine....in the end every time foreigners ***** about how my boys are all cheaters the only thing I hear is a bunch of *****ing whining ****. learn to deal with it. At this point you ought to know we use our ****ing heads. We'll hit you illegally as long as the ref don't call it. We use blocking similar to an actor's stage blocking in a play so the ref sees everything we want and nothing we don't. If you can't ****ing handle it stay the **** away from the states.

[[ DUBBZZ ]]

Ward wants to fight in Vegas. Try again.

Vegas would be the best place for the finals. Ward got this!

[Rome-By-Ko]

Froch dominated Abraham, defeating him more convincingly than Ward.

Bute KOed Miranda, while Ward went the distance with him.

Without his CHEATING (headbutts, hitting off the break, hitting while holding) Andre Ward is a very ordinary boxer.

Ward doesn't win his fights in an impressive way - he fails to stop his opponents, despite all his cheating.

If he ever sums up the courage to fight a decent opponent outside California, the fraud that is Andre Ward will be exposed.

You can make a case for Froch but Bute noway dude..Bute level of opposition is far weaker then that of Ward and esp Froch..

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Tunney this thread is a joke. Come on man. You cant seriously believe that?

[IMDAZED]

Lucian Bute?



Ahh Tunney, my favorite little ****.