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  • Russian Crushin
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    #31
    Originally posted by BoxingTech718
    That's cool but business is business. He should cut out the middleman and broker his own deals.
    Yea because Manny Pacquiao promotions will be able to get 1+ mil PPV buys per fight

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    • sicko
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      #32
      Originally posted by Deedubbzz07
      Look, from what I see, Manny seems to be an extremely loyal person, almost to a fault. He probably feels he owes Bob a lot and credits him for his success. Face it, whether we like it or not, Bob has played a huge role in making Manny, not just a boxing start, but a breakout celebrity.

      Fact is, dude is a very rich Filipino in a foreign country. Everyday this guy gets hit up by strangers looking to make a few bucks off him. He trusted Bob, and Bob delivered. Yeah, he’s taking a huge cut, but he delivered.

      I agree, Manny should negotiate a better deal but Manny doesn’t strike me as a very greedy person. He seems happy with his situation and is grateful to the people that helped him get ther.

      I mean no disrespect...but you sound like a guy that get taken advantage of A LOT

      Manny owes Bob Arum...NOTHING!!! I don't understand why some people actually would want Manny to continue to be Arum's...SLAVE! It is kinda sad actually when people are not confident in themselves that they would rather just stay in the situation that they are in just because they are comfortable being in that situation
      Last edited by sicko; 05-12-2011, 06:07 PM.

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      • megadeth
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        #33
        Originally posted by Russian Crushin
        Yea because Manny Pacquiao promotions will be able to get 1+ mil PPV buys per fight
        It's called CO-promoting. Floyd does it and he pulled 1.4 his last time out.

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        • [ DUBBZZ ]
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          #34
          Originally posted by megadeth
          Yes, its called Stockholm Syndrome.

          Stockholm syndrome is a psychological behavior that appears in certain hostage situations. The condition appears when the hostage begins to show loyalty to or sympathy with the people who are holding him or her captive. Stockholm syndrome can also be used to describe the behavior of certain victims of domestic abuse, bride kidnapping, financial ****, fighters fed a steady diet of no hopers to fool the public, build a legacy and line the pockets of their promoter.
          LOL! Could be, but seriously, do you really see Manny on his own? Self promoting? What else is dude gone do? He can barely speak english. Floyd was able to come up with a persona that commands attention. Manny, at least here in America, is just a quiet, supposedly humble, boxer...nothing more, nothing less. I guess that's his appeal and Bob played a big role in selling that image. He got that rags to riches persona down and it works.

          From what my Pinoy friends tell me, in the Philippines, he's a different dude. He's ****in Elvis, both MJs, and Schwarzenegger all roled into one. But here, he ain't goin no where without a slick business man guiding his career. And apparently, he's willing to pay for those services.

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          • Seleção No. 13
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            #35
            Originally posted by Seleção No. 13
            This too. MP Promotions is being mishandled by a group of incompetent people he calls his friends. Even if Koncz is control freak and an ass, his hanger ons aren't better because they lost him millions in endorsements. And when he does get a deal, he gets sued because someone else signs for him and he never fulfills the contract.
            So people are going to ignore the fact that I said his MP Promotional team are a bunch of slackers who have lost him millions of dollars?

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              #36
              Originally posted by sicko
              I mean no disrespect...but you sound like a guy that get taken advantage of A LOT

              Manny owes Bob Arum...NOTHING!!! I don't understand why some people actually would want Manny to continue to be Arum's...SLAVE! It is kinda sad actually when people are not confident in themselves that they would rather just stay in the situation that they are in just because they are comfortable being in that situation
              Actually, I'm a mortgage broker so its the other way around. If you read my statements, its not something I'm saying is necessarily true. I use the word "probably" in my statement. I'm just guessing like everyone else based on what I see from him.

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              • Biolink
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                #37
                Pacquiao would have gotten those endorsements without Arum. The Nike or Gatorade corporations really needs to talk to a ****ing snake first in order to get Pacquiao? Really?

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                  • sicko
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Deedubbzz07
                    Actually, I'm a mortgage broker so its the other way around. If you read my statements, its not something I'm saying is necessarily true. I use the word "probably" in my statement. I'm just guessing like everyone else based on what I see from him.
                    OH **** OK well no wonder you have that mentality, YOU WANT PEOPLE TO STAY DEPENDENT OF OTHERS because that is what your job is ALL ABOUT...well their you go lol NOW I UNDERSTAND why you don't want Manny to cut out the middle man because you yourself IS A MIDDLE MAN LOL

                    I am joking but I totally understand were your coming from though, maybe that is how Manny feels, so hey if he is happy with Arum then good for him and good for Arum

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                    • megadeth
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Deedubbzz07
                      LOL! Could be, but seriously, do you really see Manny on his own? Self promoting? What else is dude gone do? He can barely speak english. Floyd was able to come up with a persona that commands attention. Manny, at least here in America, is just a quiet, supposedly humble, boxer...nothing more, nothing less. I guess that's his appeal and Bob played a big role in selling that image. He got that rags to riches persona down and it works.
                      Hmm, that's why you have someone that knows what they are doing working with you. Look at ODLH. He is dumb as a box of rocks, but he built GB into somewhat of a force(for a little while at least). He is basically just the face and the name. You don't think they are relying on his smarts to get by, now do u?

                      Originally posted by Deedubbzz07
                      From what my Pinoy friends tell me, in the Philippines, he's a different dude. He's ****in Elvis, both MJs, and Schwarzenegger all roled into one. But here, he ain't goin no where without a slick business man guiding his career. And apparently, he's willing to pay for those services.
                      I can tell you, it's true. He is probably even bigger than that. It is really true that, when he fights, crime virtually stops in the Philippines, but a lot of that is because they don't have any other hero as big as Pac(or even close). Speaking of image... U know what's funny? My wife is a Filipina, her and many other filipinos, I talked to, while was there don't like him. You know why? Because they say "he is so arrogant". What I have seen in the USA of Pac doesn't reflect this, but what some that I've talk to, say different. Don't know if its true or not, but it tells you how perceptions can differ.

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