Richard Schaefer: Marquez vs Ortiz At 144

[Rick Grimes]

really? you saw the contract saying that jmm HAS to accept the goldenboy offer if they match?

JMM basically says it himself in the other thread.

[Alibata]

This is a great way to lure bob into fighting a GB figher because if Ortiz wins I would love to see Manny fight him.

[Gonzalez_Boxing]

Sure but Ortiz doesn't have to accept a rematch if he was to lose, so no 10 mil for JMM.

Sorry buddy, even Schaefer admitted that would be tough to get around.

From a recent Rafael article:

Even if Golden Boy can match Top Rank's fall offer to Marquez, it would certainly have a problem matching the terms of the rematch clause Top Rank offered. Even Schaefer admitted that.

"That is difficult, but not impossible," he said. "Let's assume that [Marquez] would beat Canelo, then I would have to offer him a fight against someone for $10 million. I would have to find that someone."

[el malo]

JMM basically says it himself in the other thread.

gbp can't match it anyway. ortiz can't bring in the ppv revenue pac does.

[ThePrince]

I can't believe people are actually taking this seriously. There's no way in hell GBP or HBO would invest $5 mil alone on JMM for an Ortiz fight, absolutely none. If they did, it would the biggest blunder in a long line of them recently (see Khan-Bradley). Ortiz made $400K for the Berto fight which drew a few thousand people to the stands and a decent number for non PPV HBO, but he's going to generate enough money to guarantee a return on a $5 mil investment on JMM with PPV percentages and a $10 mil rematch clause?

[el malo]

I can't believe people are actually taking this seriously. There's no way in hell GBP or HBO would invest $5 mil alone on JMM for an Ortiz fight, absolutely none. If they did, it would the biggest blunder in a long line of them recently (see Khan-Bradley). Ortiz made $400K for the Berto fight which drew a few thousand people to the stands and a decent number for non PPV HBO, but he's going to generate enough money to guarantee a return on a $5 mil investment on JMM with PPV percentages and a $10 mil rematch clause?

lol yup ortiz vs jmm would have to be on golden boy ppv.

[Rick Grimes]

gbp can't match it anyway. ortiz can't bring in the ppv revenue pac does.

FFS PPV revenue doesn't matter, are you so dumb?

If Arums contract says JMM gets x percentage, if the GBP contract says that too he must take the GBP offer.

[ИATAS]

I can't believe people are actually taking this seriously. There's no way in hell GBP or HBO would invest $5 mil alone on JMM for an Ortiz fight, absolutely none. If they did, it would the biggest blunder in a long line of them recently (see Khan-Bradley). Ortiz made $400K for the Berto fight which drew a few thousand people to the stands and a decent number for non PPV HBO, but he's going to generate enough money to guarantee a return on a $5 mil investment on JMM with PPV percentages and a $10 mil rematch clause?

what if they put Canelo on the undercard? That would be a pretty big mexican attraction (marquez, ortiz, canelo).

Even if they break even that would be a win for them (to screw bob arum).

I don't know if it's possible, just sayin. They could in theory also come out of pocket and say, pay a difference of $1-$2 million out of their own funds.

[Gonzalez_Boxing]

I can't believe people are actually taking this seriously. There's no way in hell GBP or HBO would invest $5 mil alone on JMM for an Ortiz fight, absolutely none. If they did, it would the biggest blunder in a long line of them recently (see Khan-Bradley). Ortiz made $400K for the Berto fight which drew a few thousand people to the stands and a decent number for non PPV HBO, but he's going to generate enough money to guarantee a return on a $5 mil investment on JMM with PPV percentages and a $10 mil rematch clause?

Said it a few times myself. Some of these cats just don't comprehend.

[Rick Grimes]

I can't believe people are actually taking this seriously. There's no way in hell GBP or HBO would invest $5 mil alone on JMM for an Ortiz fight, absolutely none. If they did, it would the biggest blunder in a long line of them recently (see Khan-Bradley). Ortiz made $400K for the Berto fight which drew a few thousand people to the stands and a decent number for non PPV HBO, but he's going to generate enough money to guarantee a return on a $5 mil investment on JMM with PPV percentages and a $10 mil rematch clause?

With Alvarez on the same card it would do quite well on PPV. If JMM was to win, JMM-Alavarez would be next. Ortiz would obvioulsy be making much less than JMM, but i'm sure he'd be willing to accept for the exposure.