Richard Schaefer: Marquez vs Ortiz At 144

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  • BIGBOXINGFAN
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    #61
    Originally posted by trainhard_187
    And if Marquez takes the offer hes an idiot.. Pac is what he has been crying/beggin for.. Take the fight with Pac..
    He wouldn't have a choice. As long as Goldenboy matches the 5 million offer and the 144 weight stipulation, then Marquez is obligated to fight Ortiz.

    Marquez wants to fight Pacquaio and is hoping that Goldenboy doesn't match.

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    • el malo
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      #62
      Originally posted by trainhard_187
      Exactly. thats why the Pac fight would be better for Marquez.. I dont agree with it but its what Marquez wanted, STICK TO YOUR GUNS..
      marquez is an idiot if he chooses ortiz over pac but it won't happen. shaeffer can match the 5 million but he can't match the ppv revenue pac brings.

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      • el malo
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        #63
        Originally posted by BIGBOXINGFAN
        He wouldn't have a choice. As long as Goldenboy matches the 5 million offer and the 144 weight stipulation, then Marquez is obligated to fight Ortiz.

        Marquez wants to fight Pacquaio and is hoping that Goldenboy doesn't match.
        goldenboy can't match the ppv revenue pac brings.

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        • brick wall
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          #64
          i was hoping gbp will match top rank's offer so this is a welcome news for me...now arum can concentrate on matching pac with bradley. let's see if the pachaters will still complain.

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            #65
            Originally posted by BIGBOXINGFAN
            Goldenboy is just protecting their investment.
            You don't let Bob get away with another one of your fighters like they did with Mosley.

            You over pay and match the offer and then feed Marquez to a hungry lion called Victor Ortiz.
            jmm played himself. He should have stayed loyal and forced tr to work with the guys who has ben feeding him from the jump. tr will run out of drained, aged, quitters in their stable eventually. Just keep building your legacy in real fights the old fashioned way. But, noooooo... These fighters look to take the easy route while simultaneously robbing their fans. Now he gets to get pummeled by a hungry up and comer with nothing to lose.

            He better double up on that piss for this one.

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            • Rick Grimes
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              #66
              Originally posted by el malo
              marquez is an idiot if he chooses ortiz over pac but it won't happen. shaeffer can match the 5 million but he can't match the ppv revenue pac brings.
              FFS how dumb can people be? PPV revenue doesn't matter, Arums contract will say x percentage of PPV, if the GBP contract says the same JMM must accept.

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              • Seleção No. 13
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                #67
                You think Arum might revise it with another stipulation, like you can't rehydrate over 150lbs?

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                • ThePrince
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                  #68


                  They would have to match the $5 million guarantee AND the PPV upside as well as the $10 million rematch clause guarantee. No way in hell Ortiz can generate a fraction of that.

                  This is just Schaefer being a spoiled baby and not taking his second straight L like a man. Have some dignity damnit, you're looking really desperate out there.

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                  • el malo
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Rick Grimes
                    FFS how dumb can people be? PPV revenue doesn't matter, Arums contract will say x percentage of PPV, if the GBP contract says the same JMM must accept.
                    really? you saw the contract saying that jmm HAS to accept the goldenboy offer if they match?

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                    • Rick Grimes
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by ThePrince


                      They would have to match the $5 million guarantee AND the PPV upside as well as the $10 million rematch clause guarantee. No way in hell Ortiz can generate a fraction of that.

                      This is just Schaefer being a spoiled baby and not taking his second straight L like a man. Have some dignity damnit, you're looking really desperate out there.
                      Sure but Ortiz doesn't have to accept a rematch if he was to lose, so no 10 mil for JMM.

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