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  • switchsouthpaw
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    #321
    Originally posted by Big Dunn
    Perhaps. But its not guaranteed. Buster and Holyfield Lennox never got to Tyson's level even though they beat his a$$. Shane didn't get to ODH level, Hagler never got to the SRL level, etc etc. Besides, if in 2003 I told you Floyd and MAnny would be what they are now you would've laughed at me.
    Guys like Tyson are generational, in that they are few and far between. Holyfield still banked though. Hagler had the personality of ficus plant, meaning he just stood there and said nothing. If you keep winning eventually stardom can come to you, especially in the current climate of boxing. Boxing doesn't reach a broad audience, if it did, and you aired Ortiz/Berto on terrestrial television, I guarantee we'd be looking at a new bankable star in Ortiz.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #322
      Originally posted by switchsouthpaw
      Guys like Tyson are generational, in that they are few and far between. Holyfield still banked though. Hagler had the personality of ficus plant, meaning he just stood there and said nothing. If you keep winning eventually stardom can come to you, especially in the current climate of boxing. Boxing doesn't reach a broad audience, if it did, and you aired Ortiz/Berto on terrestrial television, I guarantee we'd be looking at a new bankable star in Ortiz.
      Fair point. He does have a great story to tell.

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      • kidrak
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        #323
        Originally posted by Big Dunn
        floyd moved up and fough jose luis castillo for the lightweight title. No tune ups. Remeber that? Remember undefeated Diego, when he was terrozing muthaphikkas? Se what I mean?

        Respectfully, just because floyd didn't fight a guy doesn't mean that fighter is great.
        nah not enough..ok thats your opinion and mine..anyways.. so you saying me that floyd will be rank higher than manny?

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          #324
          Originally posted by kidrak
          yes i believe so..floyd is very talented but look at his resume and tell me the truth about it..
          He wouldnt be a 1st ballot HOF if his resume wasn't worthy. Please man just keep it real.

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          • kidrak
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            #325
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            He wouldnt be a 1st ballot HOF if his resume wasn't worthy. Please man just keep it real.
            im not saying his not worthy..ofcourse floyd is but he will go 2nd to manny..wont you agree?

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              #326
              Originally posted by kidrak
              nah not enough..ok thats your opinion and mine..anyways.. so you saying me that floyd will be rank higher than manny?
              Lets take popularity out of it. I am sure that both are 1st ballot HOF. I also know both got there by fighting above average opponents and beating them. I don't inflate or deflate Manny's resume because I like floyd. It seems you are inflating it because you like Manny.

              Even if you look at their common opponents, floyd generally fights them 1st (except Marquez). Just as floyd didn't fight certain guys at 147, Manny didn't fight them at 135. Just take an honest look and compare.

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                #327
                Originally posted by JSS
                Apparently Mosley didn't see that "OBVIOUS" straight left that floored him in the latter part of the 3rd round...so much for the slow punches coming from Pac huh? Slow but effective...
                Everyone already knos that pac is stronger than Floyd...But no one knew that after pac got that lucky knockdown that he wouldnt be able to land not ONE clean punch on Mosley...Mosley isnt even a defensive fighter, Yet NOT only did he avoid punches by running with rhythm switching footwork, but ALSO using inside defensive tactics to difflect EVERY single punch pac threw in the inside....Floyd hit Mosley ANYtime he wanted to CLEANLY while LUAGHING at him..CONTROLLED Mosley..Pac got FRUSTRATED by Mosley cuz he couldnt land clean enough to knock him out or knock him down a second time....Floyd is so ****ing fast, precise, brilliant, and he's a psychic the way he predicts what you will do before u do it, then reacts to it a split second before u move....He is going to BEAT the **** out of pacman and Pacman wont even land a punch on his gloves OR his shoulders...Floyd is going to be flying and wont let pac even get a point by landing on his elbows....So accept it and face it....Pacman has been exposed....his first time fighting a fighter that MOVED opposed to walking into his punches and getting slaughtered, and he got frustrated and MAD like a little bratty baby then started fighting predictable...At this point everyone is thinking Floyd is going to say **** the drug test and fight pacman with that **** in em...MUSCLES and SPEED isnt BOXING knowledge..And PAC is NOT God....DEFENSE is his weakness..and As much as u'd hate to admit it, Floyd has GODLY boxing abilities...He's an ******* but he's the best..At this point, I dont see Pac as even elite anymore cuz now I kno he was avoiding fighters that used movement and the other fights just made him look good....but mosley made him look like a silly amatuer..It IS what it IS and NUTHING can change reality..LMAO

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                • kidrak
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                  #328
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn
                  Lets take popularity out of it. I am sure that both are 1st ballot HOF. I also know both got there by fighting above average opponents and beating them. I don't inflate or deflate Manny's resume because I like floyd. It seems you are inflating it because you like Manny.

                  Even if you look at their common opponents, floyd generally fights them 1st (except Marquez). Just as floyd didn't fight certain guys at 147, Manny didn't fight them at 135. Just take an honest look and compare.
                  no its not whos fighting first..were talking about their resume..yah floyd opponent are good but manny's are better for sure..

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #329
                    Originally posted by kidrak
                    im not saying his not worthy..ofcourse floyd is but he will go 2nd to manny..wont you agree?
                    I think Manny is more popular with the boxing media so I think they will agree with you. I don't agree. I think if you take popularity out of it and look at who the opponent was and at what point in their career they fought them, Mayweather's resume is as good if not better. Saying that does not mean I think Manny has a BS resume.

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                    • ELPERRO
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                      #330
                      Hmm..pretty weird this coming from Jeff. He's usually the only smart Mayweather with no vocal problems or ******ation.

                      5 out of 6 floyds last fights were all boring as hell.

                      The hatton fight barely passed as semi-not boring...still a bunk for a PPV.

                      And if PAC was so one dimensional and easy to beat his nephew would of fought him already.

                      Talk in the RING...PAC ALWAYS DOES!

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