Above 130, does Pacquiao hold a win better than Martinez's win over Paul Williams?

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  • Fish_Scotland
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    #61
    Originally posted by Ryannn
    why?

    hatton was undefeated at 140.

    was the lineal champ

    had only one loss to the GREAT floyd mayweather

    pac's first fight at that weight class and he demolished him in more or less the same fashion martinez did williams

    how come it isn't comparable to sergio's win against williams?
    Your ****in right dude. A good resume is one that only contains Americans obviosly. Hatton beating a champion like Kostya Tszyu who had been at the top for over a decade and a single sole defeat to Mayweather obviously qualifies Hatton to be considered a bum when considering Pacs resume GTFOH

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    • shade darkar
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      #62
      yes. paul williams is so overrated its unreal.

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      • Ryannn
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        #63
        Originally posted by Fish_Scotland
        Your ****in right dude. A good resume is one that only contains Americans obviosly. Hatton beating a champion like Kostya Tszyu who had been at the top for over a decade and a single sole defeat to Mayweather obviously qualifies Hatton to be considered a bum when considering Pacs resume GTFOH
        people ***** on ricky like he was some sort of bum or something.

        he may not be an atg but he's a pretty damn good champion.

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        • Bushbaby
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          #64
          Originally posted by bojangles1987
          Bushbaby just has ridiculous double standards with catchweights. He loves to bring them up for Pacquiao but Paul Williams asks for a catchweight and he doesn't ever bring it up.
          Find it,find where I said Pacman gets no credit for Cotto,ur mistaken,plain & simple.

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          • UglyPug
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            #65
            morales (thrice), MAB (once), Marquez (once), Cotto and Clottey. and Ill take the Hatton win now too, because he was undefeated at 140 and the lineal champ for half a decade. Im sorry but one loss at the hands of the top fighter at the time, does not make you shot. Williams was coming off the war with martinez which he won;
            so i guess williams doesn't get credit for that W if Pac doesn't get credit for his W over marquez - both those fights were close and could ahve gone either way. the knockdown was the difference.

            Williams was completely OVER RATED - already got that ass taxed by Quintana. GUARANTEE clottey would pick williams apart and outbox him. guarantee cotto takes him to the cleaners too. . .

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            • Adonis Tha God
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              #66
              No. Pacquiao fought most of those dudes coming off recent losses and/or catchweights. De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley.

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              • Doctor_Tenma
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                #67
                Originally posted by uglypug
                morales (thrice), MAB (once), Marquez (once), Cotto and Clottey. and Ill take the Hatton win now too, because he was undefeated at 140 and the lineal champ for half a decade. Im sorry but one loss at the hands of the top fighter at the time, does not make you shot. Williams was coming off the war with martinez which he won;
                so i guess williams doesn't get credit for that W if Pac doesn't get credit for his W over marquez - both those fights were close and could ahve gone either way. the knockdown was the difference.

                Williams was completely OVER RATED - already got that ass taxed by Quintana. GUARANTEE clottey would pick williams apart and outbox him. guarantee cotto takes him to the cleaners too. . .
                I said above 130, and honestly...Paul Williams is a stylistic nightmare for Clottey. How the hell does Clottey beat Paul Williams? Please explain.

                Why did I even respond to his post. Now Cotto takes Paul Williams to the cleaners?
                Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 05-10-2011, 09:03 AM.

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                • RL_GMA
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                  #68
                  Cotto > Williams

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                  • Adonis Tha God
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                    #69
                    If Cotto beats Williams, why did he duck Williams and waited for him to vacate the WBO 147, and then fight Michael Jennings for it???

                    ???

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                    • ChampBox@PR
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Adonis Tha God
                      No. Pacquiao fought most of those dudes coming off recent losses and/or catchweights. De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley.
                      De La Hoya - Beat Forbes Before Facing Pac

                      Hatton - Beat Malignaggi before Facing Pac

                      Cotto - Beat Clottey before Facing Pac

                      Clottey - The Only that cam from a L form your list

                      Margarito - Came From beating Garcia

                      Mosley - Came From Drawing against a overweight Mora

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