Can Someone Explain To me How is Martinez close to Pac on a P4P basis???

[ChampBox@PR]

So he gets a free pass facing mediocre opposition because of the great things he's accomplished in the past? No man, NO!. Not my criteria for P4P. The bold, Ok, completely understandable, but he's been more consistent as of late and has fought the tougher guys, point blank man. Not even debatable. See, what your doing here is allowing Pacquiao to hang on to the past.

It's simple, your fighting weak to mediocre opposition, then that's what your doing. No justifying that.

Excuse me !!!! How the hell is Dzinziruk who is a JMW whom he fought at MW tougher than Margarito who outweight Pac by 17 pounds and have a iron chin??

C

[miron_lang]

The better comparison is Donairre and Martinez for the #2 spot


Pavlik, Williams, Dzinruk etc

vs

Montiel, Darchinyan, Sydorenko etc

[Doctor_Tenma]

Also, it's not disrespectful to have Pacquiao rated 2nd, no shame in it considering what Martinez has done recently. All Pacquiao has to do is take on a Bradley, Ortiz or challenge himself and move up to 54, face Sergio himself.

You simply cannot hold your position facing that kind of opposition. I guess P4P is mythical and all, but I would at least think that's the proper criteria to go by.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Excuse me !!!! How the hell is Dzinziruk who is a JMW whom he fought at MW tougher than Margarito who outweight Pac by 17 pounds and have a iron chin??

C

Hey, Baldomir had an iron chin too and outweighed Mayweather by 14 pounds, I can be as equally as ******ed. What you posted now is irrelevant. Fighters one division apart are gonna clash man, hate to be disrespectful but I doubt you truly believe your own crap.

[ChampBox@PR]

Also, it's not disrespectful to have Pacquiao rated 2nd, no shame in it considering what Martinez has done recently. All Pacquiao has to do is take on a Bradley, Ortiz or challenge himself and move up to 54, face Sergio himself.

You simply cannot hold your position facing that kind of opposition. I guess P4P is mythical and all, but I would at least think that's the proper criteria to go by.

Like I said, Sergio Martinez resume is a ****ing Joke!!!!


Pac last L was in 2005 and has beat top competition and dominate them since then. Sergio Lost as recetly as 2009 and his resume before that is complete garbage!!!

Im sorry but 3 fights doest cut it!!!!!

If we go by your criteria, Bradley >>>> Martinez!!!!

[miron_lang]

Also, it's not disrespectful to have Pacquiao rated 2nd, no shame in it considering what Martinez has done recently. All Pacquiao has to do is take on a Bradley, Ortiz or challenge himself and move up to 54, face Sergio himself.

You simply cannot hold your position facing that kind of opposition. I guess P4P is mythical and all, but I would at least think that's the proper criteria to go by.

ok ok

What the **** does Martinez has done recently???


Dzinruk - A good win. a 154lbs fighter moving up and losing to the Middlewight champion

Williams - Impressive KO2. Avenging his decision loss earlier

Pavlik - Impressive decision victory againts Pavlik who recently lost to veteran Bernard Hopkins.


Its an IMPRESSIVE RUN but **** Williams barely makes the TOP p4p and Pavlik is not even mentioned at all. You guys must wake up.

[ChampBox@PR]

Hey, Baldomir had an iron chin too and outweighed Mayweather by 14 pounds, I can be as equally as ******ed. What you posted now is irrelevant. Fighters one division apart are gonna clash man, hate to be disrespectful but I doubt you truly believe your own crap.

Baldomir, was a decent win for Floyd, people just act ******ed about it, because he ducked MArgarito to face Baldomir but thats another story!!!

[Doctor_Tenma]

Like I said, Sergio Martinez resume is a ****ing Joke!!!!


Pac last L was in 2005 and has beat top competition and dominate them since then. Sergio Lost as recetly as 2009 and his resume before that is complete garbage!!!

Im sorry but 3 fights doest cut it!!!!!

If we go by your criteria, Bradley >>>> Martinez!!!!

I respect Bradley a ton but no.

[ChampBox@PR]

I respect Bradley a ton but no.

Oh really??? Bradley beat Witter(WBC Champ #2 JWW)
Holt(WBO Champ, #4 JWW)Unified titles
Peterson(Top 10 JWW)
Alexander(WBC Champ, #3 JWW) Unified Titles x2

[Doctor_Tenma]

ok ok

What the **** does Martinez has done recently???


Dzinruk - A good win. a 154lbs fighter moving up and losing to the Middlewight champion

Williams - Impressive KO2. Avenging his decision loss earlier

Pavlik - Impressive decision victory againts Pavlik who recently lost to veteran Bernard Hopkins.


Its an IMPRESSIVE RUN but **** Williams barely makes the TOP p4p and Pavlik is not even mentioned at all. You guys must wake up.

He beat a damn good fighter in Paul Williams, Paul may be technically flawed but he more than compensates for it. Above 130, does Pacquiao have a win that equals that? Obviously not. If so, let me hear it