Ring Magazine: Cotto now officially #10 p4p

[withoutthee666]

You the Ring really has something against Ward. They usually go out of there way to suck off West Coast fighters. They do rate him #1 at 168 though so who knows what's up.

Cotto is literally shot. I could knock Cotto out.

[Walt Liquor]

I don't agree with Froch being top 5 or even top ten at this point I would say Ward should have been top 10..He is undefeated and has a better resume then Bute..But Froch is on Wards hills(despite having a better resume then Ward)but he does have that lose..There are some other things I don't agree with in ya post but i won't go there today,LOL...

undefeated has very very little to do with it. ward has one good win on his resume. the others are decent.

bute has a bunch of decent wins (although he looked much much better than ward vs common opponents)....froch has 3 good wins and one close loss and he has far better comp.

froch has the only case out of those 3 to be on ANY pfp list....

[ИATAS]

ward is fraudulently their #9 pfp right now (the ring that is)

Kessler was #1 at SMW
Bika was #6 at SWM
Allen Green was top 10

Pound 4 Pound isn't only resume based either, or else Carl Froch would be top 5 for sure. Pound 4 Pound also takes into consideration the skills one has, for example Donaire's high pound 4 pound rankings prior to beating Montiel.

Andre Ward most certainly deserves to be top 10 pound 4 pound, imo.

[withoutthee666]

undefeated has very very little to do with it. ward has one good win on his resume. the others are decent.

bute has a bunch of decent wins (although he looked much much better than ward vs common opponents)....froch has 3 good wins and one close loss and he has far better comp.

froch has the only case out of those 3 to be on ANY pfp list....

I disagree.

[withoutthee666]

Kessler was #1 at SMW
Bika was #6 at SWM
Allen Green was top 10

Pound 4 Pound isn't only resume based either, or else Carl Froch would be top 5 for sure. Pound 4 Pound also takes into consideration the skills one has, for example Donaire's high pound 4 pound rankings prior to beating Montiel.

Andre Ward most certainly deserves to be top 10 pound 4 pound, imo.

Good post. Walt's going to have a hard time with that one unless he was some kind of mega crusader against Donaire being P4P back then.

[IronDanHamza]

Miguel Cotto has done nothing to get that ranking since his exit.

The obvious choice is Carl Froch.

[withoutthee666]

Miguel Cotto has done nothing to get that ranking since his exit.

The obvious choice is Carl Froch.

The obvious choice is not setting some arbitrary rule that says you have to fight once a year to maintain that ranking.

[Walt Liquor]

You the Ring really has something against Ward. They usually go out of there way to suck off West Coast fighters. They do rate him #1 at 168 though so who knows what's up.

Cotto is literally shot. I could knock Cotto out.

how you figure? they have him on their list- and that's a total joke, I mean if you consider actual accomplishments in rating your pfp fighters.

Not sold on wins over:

Kessler
Miranda
Bika
Allan Green
Henry Buchannan
Shelby Pudwell

as pfp material. Apparently you are impressed by those killers.

[The Surgeon]

he has no accomplishments that warrant pfp top 10 inclusion.... AT ALL.

He has beaten Kessler Bika and Green along with Miranda who were all rated highly when he beat them and resume isnt everything, skills, ability and potential all come into play when making a p4p list and once again its all subjective


P4P is over rated anyways, fighters need to handle thier buisness in their weight classes and defend their belts more if u ask me

Tho it helps get some good fights made that otherwise wouldnt and makes fighters want to "Shine" everytime out

[BorderPatrol]

You the Ring really has something against Ward. They usually go out of there way to suck off West Coast fighters. They do rate him #1 at 168 though so who knows what's up.

Cotto is literally shot. I could knock Cotto out.

Yeah, I know it might look like that when you staredown a Cotto picture in your boxing magazine, but Cotto would break your jaw real quick. Before you even get to front and say "whatchu wanna do Migu?" Snuff!