why do they say joe calzaghe ducked glen johnson ?....

[daggum]

Froch was never really Joe's mandatory. Froch became mandatory for the WBC 168 title in May 08. He was due to fight Inkin on the same card as Bradley/Witter to decide who would be the No.1 Inkin pulled out for the second time so the WBC made Froch their No.1.

However Joe had already moved up to 175 and had fought Hopkins the previous month. He was done at 168 - and he was practically done with boxing.

Bute was NEVER Joe's mandatory for the IBF - Stieglitz was. HBO didn't want that fight.


Those 'one dimensional plodders' had world titles. Froch and the others were a little too late.

bute was already ibf champ before calzaghe even fought kessler so that excuse doesn't fly. bute wasn't calzaghe's mandatory because he gave up the belt to fight mandredo lol.

a completely shot roy jones jr wasn't too late to fight calzaghe but all the prime contenders whoa whoa you guys are too late!

[jermainerambo]

And Calzaghe beat Hopkins, who beat Pavlik, so that means Calzaghe is off the hook for blatantly ducking Kelly Pavlik.

I can say Jones beat an undefeated Julio Cesar Gonzalez, and Gonzalez went on to beat Dariusz and Glen[he really did]...So that gives Jones a pass to never have fought Dariousz, and he didn't have to fight Johnson, because he had already beaten a guy who went on to beat both of them. So his win over Gonzalez, indirectly gave him wins over Dariousz and Glen.

But i'm not that type of fan, how can you talk like that with a straight face?

"Calzaghe beat Kessler who beat Froch and will beat Bute, Dawson, Johnson and everybody else Calzaghe ducked so that makes Calzaghe the greatest fighter of all time".

Oh wait, Kessler beat Froch, who beat Pascal, who beat Diaconu 2x and Dawson, so that means Calzaghe is better than Froch, Pascal, Dawson, and Diaconu.

joe calzaghe ducked nobody,nobody beat him or dared to try

all roads lead to joe calzaghe
if Kessler beat Froch, who beat Pascal who beat Dawson who the best?....

if joe calzaghe beat bhop who beat Pavlik who the best?....

if joe calzaghe beat roy jones who beat Gonzalez who beat Dariousz who the best?.....

if joe calzaghe beat Omar Sheika who beat Glen Johnson who the best?.....

all roads lead to joe calzaghe being the best in the era

[Drinker]

bute was already ibf champ before calzaghe even fought kessler so that excuse doesn't fly. bute wasn't calzaghe's mandatory because he gave up the belt to fight mandredo lol.

a completely shot roy jones jr wasn't too late to fight calzaghe but all the prime contenders whoa whoa you guys are too late!

You're embarrassing yourself now!

Lucian Bute became the IBF campion 1 month before Joe fought Kessler. So clearly Bute was not on Joe's radar. Calzaghe v Kessler was made in JUNE 07, the month that Bute beat Bika in an IBF eliminator. At this time Kessler, the WBA/WBC CHAMPION was the no.2 in the 168 division. Who was Joe going to fight? In fact, Calzaghe/Kessler was supposed to happen in September 07, the month before Bute beat Berrio for the IBF title. But Joe was injured.

Bute was a nobody and Kessler was the man. Calzaghe beat the man!

When Calzaghe vacated the IBF title to fight Manfredo, Robert Stieglitz was Joe's mandatory. Stieglitz then fought Berrio for the vacant title. Bute was not in the frame at all.