why do they say joe calzaghe ducked glen johnson ?....

[NinjaMan!]

[QUOTE=Drinker;10468465]

Yeah 10 years later but who's counting?

[UOTE]

That's what is more impressive. Calzaghe won a world title in 97 and retained it for 10 years. In these 10 years he defeated 90% of the best SMW of his era. He then unified by beating two young, dangerous champions from the next era of SMW.

Are you smoking crack? You think he beat the best of his era? Jesus christ he beat a list of no name's. Give me a break. Who cares anyway Joe slappy is somebody that most of the boxing world is happy to forget about.

[daggum]

[QUOTE=Drinker;10468465]

Yeah 10 years later but who's counting?

[UOTE]

That's what is more impressive. Calzaghe won a world title in 97 and retained it for 10 years. In these 10 years he defeated 90% of the best SMW of his era. He then unified by beating two young, dangerous champions from the next era of SMW.

ottke fought just as many top fighters and had just as many title fights. and did i miss the lacy/kessler era or something? when is that happening?

[jermainerambo]

Because he did. Joe won't fight somebody who doesn't age :weed2:

man who the **** is glen johnson 14 loses 2 draws won 2 championship fight 1 was against the ****ty roy jones


america has no fighters just a bunch of country music loving Honky-tonk cowboys

yeah you're a black Hillbilly

[jermainerambo]

[QUOTE=daggum;10468488]

ottke fought just as many top fighters and had just as many title fights. and did i miss the lacy/kessler era or something? when is that happening?

mikkel kessler was sven ottke wba mandatory challenger

Jeff Lacy was sven ottke ibf mandatory challenger

[NinjaMan!]

Joe Slapzaghe definietly dominated the Lacy/Kessler/Manfredo era I'll give him that.

[Drinker]

[QUOTE=NinjaMan!;10468485]

Are you smoking crack? You think he beat the best of his era? Jesus christ he beat a list of no name's. Give me a break. Who cares anyway Joe slappy is somebody that most of the boxing world is happy to forget about.

[QUOTE=daggum;10468488]

ottke fought just as many top fighters and had just as many title fights. and did i miss the lacy/kessler era or something? when is that happening?

This is why it's difficult to debate with you clowns. Era/generation you know what I mean.

Generation before Joe:

Benn, Eubank, Collins , Toney, Barkley, McCallum, etc...

Calzaghe's generation:

Reid, Brewer, Ottke, Mitchell, Woodhall, Tate, Veit, Sheika, Echols, etc...

Lacy/Kessler's generation:

Froch, Bute, Ward, Dirrell, Taylor, Pavlik etc...

You were probably expecting that, so there you go.

The quality of Calzaghe's opponents it a seperate matter. The fact is he beat most of the top guys in his division.

Ottke had a great career and he beat the top guys. Although he had more controversial decisions than Calzaghe and I think Joe was by far the better fighter.

[daggum]

[QUOTE=Drinker;10468629][QUOTE=NinjaMan!;10468485]

This is why it's difficult to debate with you clowns. Era/generation you know what I mean.

Generation before Joe:

Benn, Eubank, Collins , Toney, Barkley, McCallum, etc...

Calzaghe's generation:

Reid, Brewer, Ottke, Mitchell, Woodhall, Tate, Veit, Sheika, Echols, etc...

Lacy/Kessler's generation:

Froch, Bute, Ward, Dirrell, Taylor, Pavlik etc...

You were probably expecting that, so there you go.

The quality of Calzaghe's opponents it a seperate matter. The fact is he beat most of the top guys in his division.

Ottke had a great career and he beat the top guys. Although he had more controversial decisions than Calzaghe and I think Joe was by far the better fighter.

calzaghe had more controverisal stoppages than ottke. neither guy could beat robin reid so is robin reid the real king of the super middleweights?







answer-yes

[NinjaMan!]

OK All joking aside. Would it be fair to call the Manfredo/Salem/Puwell era a super middleweight dynasty?

[King Ju-Ju]

because he did, several times. It's factual.

"Glen Johnson was not a top contender" SURE BUDDY, keep telling yourself that.

Johnson was Fighter of the Year in 2004 KO'ing Jones and beating Tarver and Calzaghe pulled out of course. This is well documented. There is no excuse possible for pulling out 4 TIMES. None.

[NinjaMan!]

[QUOTE=Drinker;10468629][QUOTE=NinjaMan!;10468485]

This is why it's difficult to debate with you clowns. Era/generation you know what I mean.

Generation before Joe:

Benn, Eubank, Collins , Toney, Barkley, McCallum, etc...

Calzaghe's generation:

Reid, Brewer, Ottke, Mitchell, Woodhall, Tate, Veit, Sheika, Echols, etc...

Lacy/Kessler's generation:

Froch, Bute, Ward, Dirrell, Taylor, Pavlik etc...

You were probably expecting that, so there you go.

The quality of Calzaghe's opponents it a seperate matter. The fact is he beat most of the top guys in his division.

Ottke had a great career and he beat the top guys. Although he had more controversial decisions than Calzaghe and I think Joe was by far the better fighter.

Yeah OK I,m going to take boxing history lessons from a guy who can't even figure out the quote button.