Comments Thread For: Marquez: I Can Beat Manny Pacquiao at Any Weight

[JoeDaWg]

Well that's good to know. And here I was thinking jmm was gonna get his ass whipped...

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Off Topic: What do you think about the "Measuring Manny" Videos?

I am at work, will try to check them out tonight

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Too bad you're the only one who thinks that way about Pac.

Wrong.

MANY fighters/journalists/analysts have come to the same conclusion I have.

For goodness sake, 4 of the top 5 P4P fighters have shredded Pac's recent resume'..... btw, that is EVERYONE in the top 5 except Pac

Sorry, but the weather in Pacland must be clouding your vision

Pacquiao is a very carefully manufactured Top Rank asset, a creation.

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@Laduppercut & everyone else who says Pacquiao is an unfair guy.
There are 3 elements that gets you fame in this business. But first let me give you an example of three:

1. Marcos Maidana
Everyone knows Maidana now due to his fighting style. It's aggressive, exciting, and it's on that fight fan wants.

2. Sergio Martinez
Martinez may not be a good technical boxer, not a brawler, but he took challenges and beat everyone around his division, and that's why he is popular.

3 lb-4-lb title
If you're in the top 5, you will be noticed. It means you've accomplished enough to get you that rating to be in top 5 or 10 lb-4-lb.

See all three example? This is all in one man, Pacman. How?
Pacman was exciting from the beginning when he first fought in USA against Ledwaba and That's eye-popping right there at that moment. Along the way, he was known as like Maidana now when it comes to fan-friendly fighting style.

But then he took a step and more steps to come to wipe out every best fighter out there around his division, like Martinez.

And not only did he wiped them out, but he destroyed the 2 top 10 if not top 5 kingpins that hovered around lb-4-lb best for years around that division in Barrera & Morales. At those moment, it defined him & his legacy, as a great. It should've end there when making a case for pacquiao.

But as we all know, he fought DelaHoya, Cotto, Hatton, etc.. along with winning 8 world titles. Enough said!

Sorry pal, but I think it is an absolute joke that Manny is on the P4P list.

The guy cannot fight in his own division without a catch-weight, he will not fight a genuine JMW, and he demands that the midget Marquez jump TWO DIVISIONS to 147 before he will even fight him.

That is a P4P pu$$y right there.

Why the *** would a genuine P4P fighter need a catch-weight ?

" A good fighter will look great if he holds all of the advantages "

[PennyAnd1]

Wrong.

MANY fighters/journalists/analysts have come to the same conclusion I have.

For goodness sake, 4 of the top 5 P4P fighters have shredded Pac's recent resume'..... btw, that is EVERYONE in the top 5 except Pac

Sorry, but the weather in Pacland must be clouding your vision

Pacquiao is a very carefully manufactured Top Rank asset, a creation.

Pacland? WTF? This is what I get for trying to argue with a Marquez fan huh. Alright, that's cool. I ain't got no probz, because no matter what you say don't mean a thing to the people out there who truly is a fight fan. Like I said PAcquiao sealed his legacy as a great when he beat Morales the 2nd time. After that were bonuses.

I mean, compare that to your boy, Marquez is your boy right? I got no probz with Marquez resume as well, it's impressive in its own right. But hey, you say it's easy to do what Pac did right? So **** it, why don't he challenge Margarito, Cotto, or anyone in the heavierweight. Oh wait, he can't cause his promoter gots no faith in him, nor will anyone pay enough to see him against the same oppositions Pac faced. Not because Marquez sucks, but because he can't produce the same electricity that Pac brings in the ring. Man, you're full of yourself.

Trust me, once you admit it, it won't be that painful.;j

[PennyAnd1]

Sorry pal, but I think it is an absolute joke that Manny is on the P4P list.

The guy cannot fight in his own division without a catch-weight, he will not fight a genuine JMW, and he demands that the midget Marquez jump TWO DIVISIONS to 147 before he will even fight him.

That is a P4P pu$$y right there.

Why the *** would a genuine P4P fighter need a catch-weight ?

" A good fighter will look great if he holds all of the advantages "

Man quit bein' a pain in an ass. I mentioned that Pacquiao's greatness was sealed the moment he beat the Legendary Morales the 2nd time around. The rest are bonuses.

No way will I put Marquez as number 1 lb-4-lb if that's what you're insisting. Maybe 2, but no way 1. Oh wait, did you want Martinez who's basically doing a pacquiao except with not enough resume? or maybe Mayweather who retires after every other tune-ups? No way, don't tell me you want Alvarez? My question is, who is your lb-4-lb? Compare him to Manny and I bet you it's not even close, even among the catchweight ludicracy as you insist.

[betmen]

Pac is a lightweight according to NSB so I expect the fight to be at 135. Dont you guys?

pacman is lightweight are according to you, stop being inconsistence.
whats up?? nothing about P-WILL to talk about???

[unatsqui]

The trilogy is a must..at 140 or 147...JMM is willing on both weights anyway..

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Pacland? WTF? This is what I get for trying to argue with a Marquez fan huh. Alright, that's cool. I ain't got no probz, because no matter what you say don't mean a thing to the people out there who truly is a fight fan. Like I said PAcquiao sealed his legacy as a great when he beat Morales the 2nd time. After that were bonuses.

I mean, compare that to your boy, Marquez is your boy right? I got no probz with Marquez resume as well, it's impressive in its own right. But hey, you say it's easy to do what Pac did right? So **** it, why don't he challenge Margarito, Cotto, or anyone in the heavierweight. Oh wait, he can't cause his promoter gots no faith in him, nor will anyone pay enough to see him against the same oppositions Pac faced. Not because Marquez sucks, but because he can't produce the same electricity that Pac brings in the ring. Man, you're full of yourself.

Trust me, once you admit it, it won't be that painful.;j

That is absurd.

My evaluation was correct.

The weather in Pacland is clouding your judgement.

That victory over Morales DID NOT signify that Pac was an ATG

HOF, possibly, but I do not think that you know what an ATG is

Only in Pacland

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Man quit bein' a pain in an ass. I mentioned that Pacquiao's greatness was sealed the moment he beat the Legendary Morales the 2nd time around. The rest are bonuses.

No way will I put Marquez as number 1 lb-4-lb if that's what you're insisting. Maybe 2, but no way 1. Oh wait, did you want Martinez who's basically doing a pacquiao except with not enough resume? or maybe Mayweather who retires after every other tune-ups? No way, don't tell me you want Alvarez? My question is, who is your lb-4-lb? Compare him to Manny and I bet you it's not even close, even among the catchweight ludicracy as you insist.

I did not suggest any such thing.

Not only do you have absolutely no idea what an ATG is, but you have no idea what P4P signifies either.

P4P has nothing to do with "titles", or "achievements". True P4P consideration is completely theoretical and can include untested prospects.

You pac-kids crack me up.

P4P is based on the latin phrase " ceteris paribus " meaning.....
..... " if all things were equal ".

I don't give a **** how the kids of today consider P4P, the true meaning of that consideration is..... " if all things were equal, who would win - in a 1v1 matchup ".

The " equal " in boxing, is weight.

FACT: According to the traditional meaning of the term, Marquez is a MUCH BETTER fighter P4P than Pacquiao will ever be.

The dude is a career-featherweight (that means he fought in one division until past his prime - as did many great fighters, and a number of ATG's). He will jump TWO DIVISIONS and walk into a clear mismatch, and yet Manny will not defend his JMW title against a genuine JMW, and he will rarely fight in his own division without a catch-weight.

I will ask you again.....
..... why the *** would a genuine P4P fighter need a catch-weight?

Stop and think about it.

Pac is very carefully manufactured Top Rank asset, and nothing more.

You new boxing guys are naive, excitable, and listen to every damn thing you hear...... well, I am old school, so I do not listen to the ABC bodies, the rankings, the experts, nor The Ring.

P4P..... (so, if ALL things were equal - and DUDE, 147 is not fkn "equal", OK?)..... a prime Marquez beats Manny 9/10. The only fight that Manny would win is the first, after that, Marquez makes the necessary adjustments and takes care of business, just like he did in the second fight.