Comments Thread For: De La Hoya Rips Pacquiao vs Marquez Trilogy Deal

[ikawpipa]

DISRESPECT ?!? .. did they respect each other from the first place ?!?

[gopi11]

another easy win for pac because they are making marquez fight at welterweight. pac came in for the cheato fight at 144. but jmm has to come in at 147.he's scared of what marquez can do so he is weight gaining jmm.no way jmm performs well at that weight.

You're an idiot, just like your favorite boxer. If Pac gives in to Marquez' wishes that they meet somewhere between 142-144, you'll be whining, b!tching and saying it's another bull$h1t catchweight fight. Pac is defending his 147 belt, what's wrong with that? I hope you get the drift unless you're a total moron...

[DominiBox]

OK then, Marquez will be Manny's 8th consecutive opponent that was at a serious disadvantage.

Manny Pacquiao's last 7 opponents.....

Lately, a number of observers have commented that all of Manny Pacquiao's recent opponents have either been old, faded, or inept. Let's take a closer look at 27%'s recent fights, and see if there is any truth to that allegation.....

Accusations leveled at Pacquiao include.....

* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Let's apply that criteria to Manny's last 7 opponents, and see how they stack up.

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David Diaz - Not a top fighter, faded, disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Oscar De La Hoya - Shot, drained, and shrink-wrapped.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Ricky Hatton - Not a top fighter, faded, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Miguel Angel Cotto - Badly faded / shopworn, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Joshua Clottey - Not a top fighter, and strangely innocuous.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Antonio Margarito - Not a top fighter, faded, disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Shane Mosley - Faded, shopworn, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

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All-in-all, that is a damn shabby line-up for a supposed P4P fighter, especially when you consider all of the advantages afforded to Manny during those fights..... e.g. fighting for a vacant JMW title, at catch-weight, against a BUM, and using 8oz gloves

Now, I can understand a top fighter taking the odd bout against a lesser opponent.....
but EVERY opponent in your last 7 fights?

How fkn lame is that ?

The last time Pac fought a live dog was Marquez II, and according to a significant number of trainers/fighters/journalists/analysts..... HE LOST!!

SUMMARY: There is no question that Manny is a manufactured fighter, with a padded resume'..... quite simply, just more Top Rank smoke and mirrors. Pac is the "****e Girls" of boxing.

Instead of copying and pasting ****s you find in web, let's analyze that.

Ricky Hatton: Was undefeated at his natural weight, junior welterweight.
Mayweather fought Hatton at 147 cuz he saw how bad he looked against Collazo. FACT..... What disadvantage can you name in the Pacquiao/Hatton fight ??

Cotto faded ?? hahahaha.... dude, you truly have some problems.
Mayweather ducked Margarito and Cotto. He didn't even try to do those fights.

Learn how to get your own analysis.... copyrights reserved !!

[tibbar]

Manny Pacquiao's last 7 opponents.....

Lately, a number of ***** observers have commented that all of Manny Pacquiao's recent opponents have either been old, faded, or inept. Let's take a closer look at his 7 recent fights, and see if *****S are really dumb as they appear to be.....

Accusations leveled at Pacquiao include.....

* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Let's apply that criteria to Manny in his last 7 opponents, and see how they stack up.

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David Diaz - fights at a heavier division and only got 1 loss.....
* Manny is not a skilled boxer hes one dimensional
* Manny is not a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny is not in his prime he already lost 3 times ko twice
* Manny is not on top of his game, he is easy fight, easy pay
* Manny was in a distinct disadvantage he was coming in at higher division

Oscar De La Hoya - highest PPV attraction. challenged pacquiao to even higher weight from 135 and was believed to annihilate the smaller pacquiao.....
* Manny is not in his prime he already lost 3 times ko twice
* Manny is not on top of his game, he is easy fight, easy pay
* Manny was not given a chance to win
* Manny was in a distinct disadvantage he was coming in at higher division and smaller than DLH

Ricky Hatton - top 140 fighter, who has not lost in his division
* Manny is not a skilled boxer hes one dimensional
* Manny is not a skilled counter-puncher, right hook roll under, same move everytime
* Manny is not in his prime he already lost 3 times ko twice
* Manny was fighting the top of 140 division who has not lost in that
* Manny was in a distinct disadvantage he was smaller

Miguel Angel Cotto - Only lost 1 with doubt that his opponent cheated, on top of the ww division.....
* Manny is not in his prime he already lost 3 times ko twice while his opponent only lost 1
* Manny was fighting the top WW
* Manny was fighting the top WW coming off a win
* Manny was in a distinct disadvantage he was smaller and coming to fight at a higher division


Joshua Clottey - a top 10 ww who gave cotto the pits and many believed he won .....
* Manny is not a skilled boxer hes one dimensional
* Manny is not a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny is not on top of his game, he is easy fight, easy pay
* Manny was in a distinct disadvantage he was smaller


Antonio Margarito - Large, tall, heavier ....
* Manny is not a skilled boxer hes one dimensional
* Manny is not a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny is not in his prime he already lost 3 times ko twice
* Manny is not on top of his game, he is easy fight, easy pay
* Manny was fighting somebody who is coming off a win
* Manny was in a distinct disadvantage he was smaller and lighter with his opponent at a 17lbs higher weight

Shane Mosley - HOF, top WW.....
* Manny is not in his prime he already lost 3 times ko twice
* Manny is not on top of his game, he is easy fight, easy pay one dimensional
* Manny was said to be fighting shop worn faded disadvantaged opponents
* Manny was in a distinct disadvantage he was shorter, smaller and distincly obvious when they stand side by side.

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All-in-all, that is a damn shabby accusations for the P4P fighter, especially when you consider all of the disadvantages to Manny during those fights..... e.g. challenging for higher weight divisions, enticing him to fight by agreeing to catch-weight thinking they canbully him and walk him around the ring, against some heavier bigger top of their division fighters, letting him use 8oz gloves thinking that theyre giving him confidence with it besides the smaller guy cant hurt them

Now, I can understand over confident top fighters taking the odd bout against a lesser smaller one-dimensional, easy-work easy-pay right-hook- roll -under- same-move-everytime i-cant feel his pounces opponent.....
but EVERY opponent in his last 7 fights?

How fkn lame was that ?

The Pac always challenges himself, and according to a significant number of trainers/fighters/journalists/analysts..... HE is the FIGHTER of the DECADE, thats 2000-2009!!

SUMMARY: There is no question that Manny is a fighter, and *****S hate him so much for it. .

[blacksocks]

OK then, Marquez will be Manny's 8th consecutive opponent that was at a serious disadvantage.

Manny Pacquiao's last 7 opponents.....

Lately, a number of observers have commented that all of Manny Pacquiao's recent opponents have either been old, faded, or inept. Let's take a closer look at 27%'s recent fights, and see if there is any truth to that allegation.....

Accusations leveled at Pacquiao include.....

* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Let's apply that criteria to Manny's last 7 opponents, and see how they stack up.

====================================

David Diaz - Not a top fighter, faded, disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Oscar De La Hoya - Shot, drained, and shrink-wrapped.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Ricky Hatton - Not a top fighter, faded, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Miguel Angel Cotto - Badly faded / shopworn, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Joshua Clottey - Not a top fighter, and strangely innocuous.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Antonio Margarito - Not a top fighter, faded, disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Shane Mosley - Faded, shopworn, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

====================================

All-in-all, that is a damn shabby line-up for a supposed P4P fighter, especially when you consider all of the advantages afforded to Manny during those fights..... e.g. fighting for a vacant JMW title, at catch-weight, against a BUM, and using 8oz gloves

Now, I can understand a top fighter taking the odd bout against a lesser opponent.....
but EVERY opponent in your last 7 fights?

How fkn lame is that ?

The last time Pac fought a live dog was Marquez II, and according to a significant number of trainers/fighters/journalists/analysts..... HE LOST!!

SUMMARY: There is no question that Manny is a manufactured fighter, with a padded resume'..... quite simply, just more Top Rank smoke and mirrors. Pac is the "****e Girls" of boxing.

Interesting... I'm just curious to know if not those 7 fighters, can you name 7 others he should have fought instead?

[tacuso]

I dont goldenboy will match that big offer.Its crazy,Marquez asked for this
same deal last time and arum and the pac fans lost it lol I guess marquez
wasnt overpricing himself out,Huh u pac fans idiots lol

Because if JMM accept it, all the potential income will all go to toprank. They can afford it now since the revenue is not shared with GBP.

[Hyper Knuckles]

Pac is so full of himself.They paint you this pretty picture of a god fearing, humble congressman who fights for his country. I call bull****. Label me a hater.. I don't care but fighting worn vets, looking past sugar ..imitating The Great Bruce Lee.. staging a CONCERT after the ppv, that irks me. It's like he's mocking the guy he's in the ring with and hardcore fans who really understand the media scam behind it all. I know it's wrong but I hope Shane hurts him bad so he can stop *****footing around.

[Vegan101]

Pac is so full of himself.They paint you this pretty picture of a god fearing, humble congressman who fights for his country. I call bull****. Label me a hater.. I don't care but fighting worn vets, looking past sugar ..imitating The Great Bruce Lee.. staging a CONCERT after the ppv, that irks me. It's like he's mocking the guy he's in the ring with and hardcore fans who really understand the media scam behind it all. I know it's wrong but I hope Shane hurts him bad so he can stop *****footing around.

[Hyper Knuckles]

Interesting... I'm just curious to know if not those 7 fighters, can you name 7 others he should have fought instead?

Mosley was available years ago. He'd asked Pac for a fight after demolishing Marg and was denied after failing to comply with the demands of a catchweight. Arum also stated "he wasn't a draw" so they went with ...clottey fight instead.

[AllEyesOpen]

Doesn't this always happen? Pac already calling out his next opponent.