Steward knows something: Vlad's team knows something .?.?.?.?

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  • Floydmayweather
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    #31
    I think Peter is dangerous but lets back up a little. Before Wlad was beaten he was looked upon as a monster, he still is. He may have lost he mental edge but i think he can get it back. And with the experience and skills he has he can beat any heavy out there besides his bro who he will never fight.

    My pick has changed after seeing the confidece in Wlads eyes and watching some training, im going with WLad Ko in 4.
    Last edited by Floydmayweather; 09-22-2005, 01:02 PM.

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    • El Jesus
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      #32
      Originally posted by spinksjinx
      Which is Stewards fault, he doesnt have complete control over his fighters. .


      I think i have explained this to you already and im going to do it again. A fighter is a ****in grown man, the only thing a trainer can do is advise the fighter, not be his ****ing dad and make sure hes running etc. A trainer may have multiple fighters on his scheduale and has a set scheduale on how conditioning etc are taken care of, while that trainer trains them on their fight plan and goes over their technique. A trainers job isnt to completely control a fighter at all, infact when you try to do this, your gonna lose the fighter very easily.

      Your acting like its Stewards job to make sure his fighters are in shape, no, a championship calibre fighter makes his own desicions on conditioning and the like, and all steward can do is advise them on the subject. You make it seem like "oh stewards fighters run out of gas". Oh ****in well, look at some of the desicions some of these fighters make, is it stewards fault harris didint listen to the fight plan? is it stewards fault that Hearns traded with Hagler in the first 2 rounds? No, its not, hes there to advise and thats it.

      If a fighter feels that steward isnt doing the job for them then they can drop him, because the advice ive seen him give over the years is usually dead on to whats going on in the fight. The thing is, top level fighters come to him, he doesnt go to them. So a slew of credible belt holders must see something you dont.

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      • spinksjinx
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        #33
        Originally posted by Floydmayweather
        I think Peter is dangerous but lets back up a little. Before Wlad was beaten he was looked upon as a monster, he still is. He may have lost he mental edge but i think he can get it back. And with the experience and skills he has he can beat any heavy out there besides his bro who he will never fight.

        My pick has changed after seeing the confidece in Wlads eyes and watching some training, im going with WLad Ko in 4.

        Watch Peter drop his right hand, he does it all the time in every single fight. Wladimir will smack his left hook to that jaw every single time...

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        • SacTown1
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          #34
          Originally posted by spinksjinx
          Watch Peter drop his right hand, he does it all the time in every single fight. Wladimir will smack his left hook to that jaw every single time...
          Manny Steward knows ONE THING:

          KLITSCHKO'S = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

          why else would he train these guys? Manny is already an HBO employee, and the Klitschko's have been HBO poster-boys for 2-3 years now, with very little to show for it other than 2 KO losses for Wlad and a paper title for Vitali....Manny is simply trying to help HBO cash-in on their investment

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            #35
            Originally posted by SacTown1
            Manny Steward knows ONE THING:

            KLITSCHKO'S = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

            why else would he train these guys? Manny is already an HBO employee, and the Klitschko's have been HBO poster-boys for 2-3 years now, with very little to show for it other than 2 KO losses for Wlad and a paper title for Vitali....Manny is simply trying to help HBO cash-in on their investment

            Well I assumed that but Steward just ensures me that he is a bigger piece of **** for having that reasoning.

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            • Double
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              #36
              I'll be in AC to see the fight, I hope to find good priced tickets and I hope someone gets KTFO!

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              • PBDS
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                #37
                Originally posted by success7
                Something is up as well. Vlad;s team would not have taken this fight if they didnt know something. Steward is terrific at rebuilding tall fighters. He could have matched Vlad against Brock, Valuev, Lychavich, Austin etc and begin to gain respect. Peter is a way to leapfrog some fights back into respect. Why would Steward pick the deadliest puncher against His charge. Steward could have his career ruined by this fight. Why would a guy who had one of the best middleweights and heavyweights ever put his reputation on the line.
                BECAUSE something is shaky about peter, it might be his jaw, stamina, something is up... just remember that.
                Think of logic, why choose Peter. Forget all that IBF WBO ranking crap. Vlads team, Steward knows something is up....

                ....I have seen more than a few articles kind of agreeing with what your saying. The whole idea that Wlad and Manny know something that we don't.

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                • Pno
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by pbds
                  ....I have seen more than a few articles kind of agreeing with what your saying. The whole idea that Wlad and Manny know something that we don't.
                  maybe Sam is on the 'roids and they know if they loose, it won't matter i.e. James Toney vs. John Ruiz.

                  seriously though, what trumps big looping shots / low skill?
                  a mobile fighter light on his feet...
                  if Wlad is more mobile like with Castillo, consistantly circling away from the power hand, Sam will most likely get frustrated and leave himself open.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by TKODoll
                    **** you, ****. Your mother's **** smells of excrement.
                    And what about your own balls? it kinda smells like rotten cheese to me. yuck! lol!

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