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  • giacomino
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    #81
    The refs and judges should be neutral and IMO, from different countries. It's ****** if they are all from California because it gives the appearance of bias, whether they are bias toward Ward or not. Also, Showtime should have insisted Ward fight outside of California, IMO. All fighters in the Super Six should have had the same rules and IMO and should have had to fight at either neutral sites or rotated countries.

    However, I find it ironic that Sauerland would ever ***** about anyone getting a hometown advantage. Ask all of the champions/title challengers over the years brought in to fight Sauerland fighters and ask them what they thought of all the "neutral" judges and referees. Most recently, ask Lebedev and Karmazin what they thought about Sauerland's "neutral" officials.

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      #82
      Abraham will be given a fairer shot by American judges and refs than what most fighters get in Germany on a Sauerland card, that's for sure.

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      • athletic
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        #83
        This is a great move by Abraham and Sauerland hats off to them. Andre Ward is a cheating headbutting punk who is always fighting home with corrupted refs and judges. Just look at the Bika fight for the proof the hometown ref was corrupted letting Ward headbutt all the time & on top of that the scorecards were corrupted as well. Glad to see someone stepping up to the plate to stop this punk who refused to fight in the super six unless all his fights were in his hometown.

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          #84


          I don't remember anyone crying this much when Hatton mauled Kostya Tszyu in England. I guess it only bothers people when an American gets a little rough.

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            #85
            What a crock of shit. Fuck California and fuck Andre Ward. How was this bitch allowed to have so many home town fights, especially in this tournament? I totally support Abraham for not putting up with this crap. He's already fighting in his back yard for the 7th time in a row, now he has to have a Cali ref and judge? This is pathetic.

            He's fought 17 out of his 23 fights in Cali.

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            • The Hammer
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              #86
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
              Abraham will be given a fairer shot by American judges and refs than what most fighters get in Germany on a Sauerland card, that's for sure.
              That's not true at all.

              There have been far more fighters robbed in the USA than anywhere.

              And I've seen a lot of crooked referees, like Jack Reiss who worked Kessler-Ward, and the ref who worked Abraham-Dirrell.

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                #87
                Yup sounds like the same pathetic commission that tried to put themselves above the world in the margarito case. *** these guys. Why anyone still has fights in california is beyond me. Ridiculous costs/taxes and idiotic commission.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Freedom!
                  That's not true at all.

                  There have been far more fighters robbed in the USA than anywhere.

                  And I've seen a lot of crooked referees, like Jack Reiss who worked Kessler-Ward, and the ref who worked Abraham-Dirrell.


                  The white guys didn't win those fights but that doesn't mean that the refs were crooked.

                  Germany and Sauerland are notorious for how shady some of their boxing decisions are.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by ABOSWORTH
                    What a crock of shit. Fuck California and fuck Andre Ward. How was this bitch allowed to have so many home town fights, especially in this tournament? I totally support Abraham for not putting up with this crap. He's already fighting in his back yard for the 7th time in a row, now he has to have a Cali ref and judge? This is pathetic.

                    He's fought 17 out of his 23 fights in Cali.
                    Originally posted by ANDROIDISM
                    Yup sounds like the same pathetic commission that tried to put themselves above the world in the margarito case. *** these guys. Why anyone still has fights in california is beyond me. Ridiculous costs/taxes and idiotic commission.
                    Sauerland appears to be lying about that. Don't you read the other headlines on BoxingScene? Here's what Ward's promoter had to say in response:

                    "Ward's Promoter Responds To Sauerland on Officials
                    Posted by: Goossen Tutor on 4/27/2011 .

                    By Dan Goossen

                    Contrary to Wilfried Sauerland’s comment in his press release of today when he states, “all of a sudden (California Commission) insists on installing a Californian judge as well as a Californian referee,” Wilfried would be 100 percent incorrect that the commission insisted on a California referee or acted in any manner inconsistent with our agreement with Sauerland.

                    Exactly what was agreed upon, the California Commission has granted, one Californian judge, one German judge, one neutral territory judge, and a neutral territory referee, which the California Commission was very helpful in supporting.

                    As for Andre Ward, he is focused on preparing and continuing his rise towards the finals of the Showtime Super Six Tournament bout against Arthur Abraham regardless of the officials."

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                    • mathed
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                      #90
                      LOLOL...Ward is trash...this shizz is why I dislike him. He is a fabricated punk who fights at home, has hometown refs and judges and wrestles instead of boxes. If you like him, that's on you...I know fabricated fakeness when I see it.

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