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  • #41
    Originally posted by Steak View Post
    height and reach does not = size. Pacquiao is obviously more muscular and lean than Marquez, and likely couldnt make 135 anymore, wheras Marquez wouldnt have much problem.
    Height and reach equals range which is more a important aspect of size (as long as it is used properly) than what a cat weighs.


    JMM looked like ass because of range point blank, that will not be the case in this fight.

    You are putting to much on mass.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood View Post
      The fight should happen at 155.1 for a vacant Middleweight title. Just strip Sergio again like they always do. Pacquiao's title in 9 different weight classes.
      That sounds about right, Arum and the clan of patards would be all over it like white on rice.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Post
        cant use the floyd fight as a measuring stick..he has long arms and is a pure boxer and the bst defensive fighter of our era...manny and jmm have the same measurment damn near and both will be on the offensive.....
        So you don't care if it's a bull**** fight. You just care that the stlyle mesh together for a good fight.

        Got you. Nothing wrong with that I guess.

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        • #44
          BECAUSE IT'S NOT ABOUT THE FIGHT NIGHT WEIGHTS, FOR THE HUNDRETH F***ING TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GUY WHO WEIGHS 144 SHREDDED AND A GUY WHO MAKES 144 BLOATED.

          If it's all about fight night weights, why doesn't Martinez make 150 since he is the same size on fight night as Margarito? See the point?

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Ko King 212 View Post
            So you don't care if it's a bull**** fight. You just care that the stlyle mesh together for a good fight.

            Got you. Nothing wrong with that I guess.
            why is it a bull**** fight??wernt the first 2 close and contraversial??werent people claiming he was avoiding jmm and shouldnt be fighting shane??see ive been here long enough to see how biased ass posters with an agenda will flip flop its sickening..some people refuse to give fights any ****ing credit no matter what they do,,and those posters are usually in deep red

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            • #46
              Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
              Height and reach equals range which is more a important aspect of size (as long as it is used properly) than what a cat weighs.


              JMM looked like ass because of range point blank, that will not be the case in this fight.

              You are putting to much on mass.
              great post..great post..green k

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              • #47
                Larry you're a ****** mother****er comparing fight night weights to the actual weight they are comfortable in. Didn't Marquez weigh 133 f****ing pounds in the rematch vs diaz? and you're comparing a guy who's been fighting at ****ing welterweight for the past two years which is a OMG 147 weight class!!! shut the **** up. This fight is complete bull****

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
                  BECAUSE IT'S NOT ABOUT THE FIGHT NIGHT WEIGHTS, FOR THE HUNDRETH F***ING TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GUY WHO WEIGHS 144 SHREDDED AND A GUY WHO MAKES 144 BLOATED.

                  If it's all about fight night weights, why doesn't Martinez make 150 since he is the same size on fight night as Margarito? See the point?
                  jmm doesnt have to come in at 144..he can come in at what ever weight he feels comfortable at and rehydrate

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                    Height and reach equals range which is more a important aspect of size (as long as it is used properly) than what a cat weighs.


                    JMM looked like ass because of range point blank, that will not be the case in this fight.

                    You are putting to much on mass.
                    Im pretty sure you have it exactly backwards. Would you consider Caballero bigger than Cotto? Paul Williams bigger than Dwight Muhammad Qawi? Sandy Saddler bigger than Marciano?

                    theres a reason there are weight classes and not height/reach classes.....

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Post
                      floyd and manny fight nothing alike..floyds arms are longer than mannys and hes defense first and jmm still landed 2 punches in row when floyd was on the ropes..mannys all offense and will exchange with jmm..jmm and mannys styles mesh very well
                      dont think you get what i mean.

                      whether it was floyd or whoever marquez fought that night at ww, he was nowhere near effective than his form at 135.

                      no matter who you put marquez in there above 144, he wont show the same effective, speed, or even pop that he has at 135, cause the weight is too much and will obviously slow him down. weight matters alot in this matchup. a borderline contender whos natural at 147 would give him fits just cause the size alone. marquez cant move or do what he does best at 135 at 147. manny showed he can, and i know this because of his body language. how he looked stiff and unable to get off shots. his next fight after with floyd he was normal, why? he went back down almost 10 pounds and was in his effective class

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