Who has the better resume Sugar Ray Leonard or Manny Pacquiao?

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  • $tate of Mind
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    #511
    Originally posted by PorterIsFuture
    Pacquiao doesn't have a problem with fighting someone bigger, but the skill could be a difference. I haven't seen much classic boxing, but I will spend some hours watching old fights during the Summer.
    Analyze the Legends' skills.
    Hearns had one of the best jabs in boxing history along with crushing power. Leonard could do everything. Leonard had tremendous speed with the ability to box and brawl. Both guys also had very good stamina, they fought 15 rounds back then.

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    • BennyST
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      #512
      Originally posted by ADP02
      Morales wasn't known for his 135+ division fights but don't let that stop you with talking the way you do. Furthermore, you can do what you did with some of SRLs opponents as well.
      No you ****ing can't!! That is the point!

      You can't do that with Leonard's opponents. Get a ****ing clue mate.

      Morales lost twice in a row before beating Pac, the Raheem fight his most embarrassing one sided defeat ever, then lost his next three fights after Pac. That is the definition of a done fighter. If a champion goes undefeated for ten years, then loses nearly six fights in a row, he's done.

      Duran had lost one fight in 13 years, nearly a decade before fighting Leonard, which he avenged twice by KO. He had never lost a championship fight. He had been a champion for a decade, and won 14 title fights and beaten numerous HOFers.

      Marvin Hagler hadn't lost a fight in 11 years. Eleven years. He had been the Undisputed champion for 7 of those, and his only early losses were both avenged.

      Thomas Hearns hadn't lost a fight as a professional, and had just come off championship wins over a great long time champion and HOFer in dominant fashion.

      Wilfred Benitez was undefeated across 7 years, a two division champion, wins over HOFers.

      Ayub Kalule undefeated for 7 years, 3 of those as champion.

      Duran, Hearns, and Benitez would all go on to win many more championship titles in numerous weight classes after the Leonard loss.

      But, all up, when they fought Leonard, every single one of them had been undefeated for close to a decade, all were veteran champions with big wins, and all except Hearns and Kalule were lineal champions.

      You cannot do what you just said with any one of them.

      The closest loss one of them had had before fighting Leonard was eight ****ing years previous, Duran losing a close 10 round decision, which he avenged twice by KO over the great lightweight De Jesus. Hagler hadn't lost in 11 years and all the others were still undefeated champions.

      Edit: Morales didn't lose two fights before Pac. He lost his last fight, beat Pac, then lost his next four in a row.
      Last edited by BennyST; 05-15-2014, 11:48 PM.

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        #513
        Furthermore, Duran is considered a top 3 lightweight, and top ten ATG.

        Hagler is considered a top 3 middleweight, and top twenty ATG.

        Hearns is considered a top 3 Jr Middleweight, top ten welterweight and usually top twenty ATG.

        Benitez is considered a top thirty/forty ATG.

        Not one of these ATGs had lost a fight within eight years, if they had lost at all as a professional, of fighting Leonard.

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        • BennyST
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          #514
          Ricky Hatton had been knocked out only two fights before Pac.

          Miguel Cotto had been knocked out only two fights before Pac.

          Erik Morales had lost his last fight directly before Pac, then lost his next four in a row.

          Still his greatest win, Barrera had lost three fights, one by KO, his last loss coming three years before. Still a great win.

          Marquez had lost two fights, his last loss three years before....but Pac didn't actually win that fight. When he did beat Marquez, Marquez was coming off a loss four fights previous.

          Oscar had lost three of his last six fights, one of those by KO. That's a 50% loss ratio for the last five years of his career.

          Shane Mosley was 40 and shot. No need to go further.

          When you actually put things into perspective, things look a lot different.

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            #515
            The no section has to be the most accurate list of the dumbest pacfans and biggest trolls on here over the last 4 years. Makes me lol everytime.

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            • Awesome-O
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              #516
              SRL, like Michael Spinks, is a case of quality over quantity.

              Low number of fights for ATGs, but great resumes regardless.

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                #517
                Originally posted by Awesome-O
                SRL, like Michael Spinks, is a case of quality over quantity.

                Low number of fights for ATGs, but great resumes regardless.
                That's a damn good analogy.

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                • BodyBagz
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                  #518
                  And people say I hate Pac

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                  • BodyBagz
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                    #519
                    Originally posted by Awesome-O
                    SRL, like Michael Spinks, is a case of quality over quantity.

                    Low number of fights for ATGs, but great resumes regardless.
                    You have great fighters
                    Then you have great compilers

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                    • Charlie Zelenoff
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                      #520
                      Who on Pacquiao's resume is comparable to prime Tommy Hearns?

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