Angelo Dundee: After Haye Ko's Klitschko he will be top 15 atg

[hugh grant]

Wlad is considered a top 20 ATG by most people (not me), who has Wlad got on his resume that comes anywhere close to the top 100 ATG's? A win against Wlad and there's a good argument that Haye should be rated higher than him. I didn't say Haye would be top 15.

Corrie Sanders has a better resume than haye and he also beat Wlad. Is Corrie above Wlad, probably not because, again Wlad has a better resume than Corrie most probably.

I think we are changing the rules as and when we please. All you have do is beat the man considered the best to be the best. Randolph turpin beat SRR, so automatically those 100s of wins SRR had, are attributed to Randolph.

[TouchyAndalou]

Some knowledgable historians only just have Holyfield, Lewis and Tyson in their top 15's, others don't have them in at all. And those guys fought most of the best heavyweights of their day, whilst dominating the divsion for years at a time. Haye has done nothing even close to resembling this. GTFO with this crap.

[Rick Grimes]

Corrie Sanders has a better resume than haye and he also beat Wlad. Is Corrie above Wlad, probably not because, again Wlad has a better resume than Corrie most probably.

Wlad at the time wasn't the fighter he is now, Wlad is in his prime. Wlad hasn't got the quality opponents on his resume to definitely be rated higher than Haye.

[Rick Grimes]

Corrie Sanders has a better resume than haye and he also beat Wlad. Is Corrie above Wlad, probably not because, again Wlad has a better resume than Corrie most probably.

I think we are changing the rules as and when we please. All you have do is beat the man considered the best to be the best. Randolph turpin beat SRR, so automatically those 100s of wins SRR had, are attributed to Randolph.

Are you moron? SRR beat ATG's, Wlad hasn't he's rated so highly by dominating average HW's.

[edgarg]

Angelo Dundee - 'David Haye is for real. England should be proud of him.'
Legendary American trainer Angelo Dundee has seen WBA heavyweight champion David Haye in the flesh for the first time and predicts the Londoner will become one of the sport's all-time great heavyweights.

Haye is in training at Dundee's legendary Miami Fifth Street Gym and despite the man who guided Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard approaching his 90th birthday, he still casts his eye over his gym's fighters on a daily basis.

"I watched him and he was training in my Fifth Street Gym," Dundee told the BBC. "I was pleased - I felt like he belonged right to that gym. He's an interesting human being. It was my first time being in person with the kid. I'm impressed because I like the way he handles himself and I like the people around him. There's much more than meets the eye.

"I like everything about his style. I love a boxer, he can box and move. He feels at home in the gym and that's important because that's where the kids get in shape. he's blends with the gym. When Muhammad first came to Miami and to my gym he blended with the gym, the ring, the guys and he's one of the guys. David Haye can blend in anywhere, England should be proud of him.

"There's a smile on his face and he talks. We've got to have fighters that talk so you (journalists) have something to say and somethign to write and DH gives you everything. And he can fight that's the important thing.

"David Haye will go down in history, he's excellent, I'm very impressed.

"I'm the worst picker in the world and I don't want to jinx the kid but to me he should beat Klitschko. You've got to go one fight at a time and take them as they come.

"David Haye, after he knocks out Klitschko, will be with the top 15 (of all-time heavyweights). He's for real, he can fight and he knows what he's doing.

"Every era has a different great fighter and David Haye belongs to this era. I respect him as a heck of a fighter."

Any respect I might have had for Dundee-not much- evaporated after this silly, contradictory, so-called interview. Which was not an interview at all but a PR issuance to boost Haye. Dundee was probably paid for it.

Does he still own the gym, run it etc, or is just his name being used-again for a fee-. One lie, very obvious, was that he goes there EVERY DAY to cast an eye over his fighters. Haye has been there for weeks and Dundee is busy telling us that this is the first time he's met this great Englishman of whom we all should be proud, and that he's going to be top 15 all time great. Klitschko isn't, seemingly, worth his mention, yet, the beating of him automatically makes his conqueror into a top 15 All Time Great................

Naturally he brings Ali's name into it so that he can fit Haye's name beside Ali's, their relationship being that Dundee felt that they both "fitted in" to the gym.....

Well I ask you. Sillier crap, even though it's from a near 90 year old man from the old Mafia controlled boxing days, who hardly knows what he's saying half the time, (The other half, he's not sure) I have not heard in recent days or weeks. He surely doesn't know Haye's real record, especially his "heavyweight (all time great) qualifications..........

Still I suppose he's trying to earn himself a little money the best he can. The same way that Don Rickles likely did, by appearing at Manny P.'s training quarters the other day.

[edgarg]

If he beats both he's top 20, just Wlad top 40. IMO

Congratulations Blobs, for "seeing the light'. I didn't think you regarded the Klitschkos so highly.

[YouAintaKilla]

"After Haye KO'S Klitschko.."

Stopped reading there.

[Gojira]

If he beats both Klitschkos maybe Dundee would have a point.

[Joeyzagz]

Beating Wlad makes Haye better than Wlad....no where near top 15 ATG.

[IronDanHamza]

There is no chance David Haye will ever be considered a Top 15 ATG Heavyweight.

He only has a maximum of 2 fights left before he retires.

Even if those were to be both win's over Klitschko's, he still wouldn't be a Top15 ATG Heavyweight.

There is just no place where he fits in, the history of the HW divison is way to deep.