There is no way possible SRR wouldve did to Hatton, Cotto and Marg what Pac did.

[Real King Kong]

good stuff..ive alway wondered concerning mafia and boxing back in the days.....i suspect that lots of people in the atg list were helped by the mafia back then too....is it true that robison was once approached by the mafia trying to convince him to throw away a fight and he refused?....tbh, i think boxing back in the days was way dirtier than it is now...ive seen a bit of clip concerning it but never got much out it tho.

back in those days it wasn't uncommon for guys fighting above their weight to dip their handwraps in plaster of paris to even the playing field. there was a whole different breed of toughness back then.

[hugh grant]

lol at the person who said there is a case for BH being better than Pac due to longevity and they dont think Pac could do what BH does at 46. Well for starters, BH for most of his career has been taken the mickey out of cos of his stinky, horrible way of fighting.

BH is doing quite well now, but probably mostly because his opponents expect to blow him away and take him lightly. But SRL was past it at 30 and i dont see people discredit him for prematurely ageing. Ali didnt do too well into his 30s as well and when his reflexes went.

[SirTomJones]

How many have seen SRR fight?

[TouchyAndalou]

lol at the person who said there is a case for BH being better than Pac due to longevity and they dont think Pac could do what BH does at 46. Well for starters, BH for most of his career has been taken the mickey out of cos of his stinky, horrible way of fighting.

Pacquiao couldn't do what Hopkins does once Pacquiao's physical attributes have eroded, let alone at 46. Because Pacquiao is nowhere near as well-rounded a fighter as Hopkins is. I'm not saying he's not as effective in the ring, mind you, but much of his effectiveness is based on his speed and athleticism, and he doesn't have the skill set or boxing brain in my opinion to continue to dominate once said physical gifts have eroded.

BH is doing quite well now, but probably mostly because his opponents expect to blow him away and take him lightly.

No opponent of Hopkins expects to blow him away or take him lightly. Literally, none.

But SRL was past it at 30 and i dont see people discredit him for prematurely ageing. Ali didnt do too well into his 30s as well and when his reflexes went.

This is why Hopkins gets praised for his longevity. Unlike those guys, Hopkins continues to perform at the elite level due to sublime ringcraft.

[kadyo's]

A whine thread about a *******?

[puga]

back in those days it wasn't uncommon for guys fighting above their weight to dip their handwraps in plaster of paris to even the playing field. there was a whole different breed of toughness back then.

...diffrent breed of toughness yes...and also diffrent breed of cheating......thats some unfair ****....cheers mate!

[tibbar]

how do ya'll keep mentioning floyd??is he just an automated response in ya'll peanut sized minds??

hush baby, are you hurt? here and stop whining.

[TouchyAndalou]

pacquaio has plenty of records....4 div lineal titles, nevermind the 8th div titles... but the 7 div titles......only man to ever do it...3 time foty,(only 4 or 5 has it) fighter of the decade...who are those hof fighters you claim he beat besides an old roy jones , tito, and winky, hoya?....are those better than mab, erik or jmm wins....areany other of his wins beter than a cotto win given bhop has alway been the bigger guy than his opponents..disputed losses are not considered wins, so you cnat give him credit for that.....his mw run was awesome but it anit better than pac's ...

Pacquiao's rise through the weights is incredible, no doubt about that, but when you're looking at it from an all-time perspective, you have to consider what he did at each of those weights. Take lightweight for instance. He beat up David Diaz, by far the weakest belt holder in that division, a C-level fighter in general... and that's it. It's not like he cleared out any of these divisions. Is this more impressive than completely dominating a single division for over a decade? Maybe. Probably, even. I mean, for a guy who started at 108lbs to fight for a light middleweight title is pretty miraculous. But we'll only truly see just where Pacquiao stands all-time once he retires, especially if he fights Mayweather before doing so.

[IronDanHamza]

lol at the person who said there is a case for BH being better than Pac due to longevity and they dont think Pac could do what BH does at 46. Well for starters, BH for most of his career has been taken the mickey out of cos of his stinky, horrible way of fighting.

BH is doing quite well now, but probably mostly because his opponents expect to blow him away and take him lightly. But SRL was past it at 30 and i dont see people discredit him for prematurely ageing. Ali didnt do too well into his 30s as well and when his reflexes went.

At the age of 30+ Ali has wins over;

Ken Norton
Joe Fraizer x2
George Foreman
Chuck Wepner
Ron Lyle
Jimmy Young
Earnie Shavers
George Chuvalo
Jerry Quarry
Floyd Patterson
Bob Foster

Not too bad if you ask me.

[tibbar]

back in those days it wasn't uncommon for guys fighting above their weight to dip their handwraps in plaster of paris to even the playing field. there was a whole different breed of toughness back then.

true true! thats the reason why boxing is the red light district of sports, it cannot be called that way for no reason. chemicals are even use on gloves to irritate the eyes of the opponent, bits of glass and every which way to even the playing field like you said.