Comments Thread For: Victor Ortiz on Pacquiao Fight: I Call The Shots, Not Arum

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I never had a problem with jr but homie be talking reckless whenever I say anything about Pac. Like you say. It's just my opinion. why would he get so offended about me not being a big fan of Pac?

should be No big deal If you DOn't like PaC. BUT by Disrespecting Him Even for What He have DonE to Your Sports of Boxing is different thing... just imagine if No Pac nowadays and Only Floyd who always (Yes always because it is already twice) went on VAcation everytime people want him to fight a good opponent... your disrespect to Pac, who brings boxing back to the Scene (as in BoxingSceNe) is a DisGrace to the sport itself...

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What a pathetic loser you're

SMH.

Go learn about the sport before even discussing it man. You're knowledge of the sport is on the level of Check hooks, ModernTalking, Puga, Horus,Yesir, Carlos Slim, Klitschko2009, Studentofthegam.

LOL @ "You can't see me" See you in what actually? Boxing knowledge? Really? There are a lot of posters on here who knows way more than me. But, I can guarantee you when it comes to the history of the sport and the knowledge of the sport. You would be out of your dept with me. I promise you that. And, deep down you know that as well.

LOL @ "go get some people" Jesus how old are you?

Asking me what grade I am in. But, yet you the one that doesn't even have a 5th grade reading comprehension. GTFOH.

Anyways, now we getting out of boxing related discussion. So I will let you have the last word cuz' I know your *****ass(out of character ) will respond. But, this is my last post about you on a personal none boxing related level.

However, if you make one ****** ass boxing statement then you bet your ass I will say something.

Whatever man. You are living in your own world. Whenever you feel like Man'n up and talking to me with some sense then we talk and debate but until then have fun with the rest of the guys on here that only consider Manny the greatest on the planet. Atleast I can say give Ortiz a shot at Floyd or Pac instead of writing him off because Pac is supposed to be so great but he hasn't won a fight against anyone worth mentioning in a long time. Basically what you are saying about me not knowing is what the whole sport of boxing has been saying about Pac. Try reading sometime. I will never cosign any professional, elite fighter that is scared of needles and giving blood to fight. I'm not from that era son. You say that you are so unbias when it comes to Manny but you blew your top whenever somebody says something or don't agree with how you feel. Also, calling people names to make a point is weak. I feel upset at myself for even putting forth some of the things I said, when I replied to you because I'm not here for that. We don't ever have to agree but know at the end of the day that I have no issues towards you and never did so it's on you bruh. You think you know more than me in the sport, then prove it with your post and not you punk @ss words of disrespect. why would you stoop so low to get upset at a person that you feel superior than? You're a clown..... EARLY.

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Then you're just as big of an idiot as check hooks, Pasawayako, Puga, and posters of that ilk.

You wish son.

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No big deal If you DOn't like PaC. BUT by Disrespecting Him..... who brings boxing back to the Scene (as in BoxingSceNe) is a DisGrace to the sport itself...

I get your point, and fair call.

Some comments that are made in support of Manny are a little... exaggerated.

Maybe sometimes other posters will question some of those comments, and on occasion will add an opinion of their own, just to provide a little..... balance.

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should be No big deal If you DOn't like PaC. BUT by Disrespecting Him Even for What He have DonE to Your Sports of Boxing is different thing... just imagine if No Pac nowadays and Only Floyd who always (Yes always because it is already twice) went on VAcation everytime people want him to fight a good opponent... your disrespect to Pac, who brings boxing back to the Scene (as in BoxingSceNe) is a DisGrace to the sport itself...

That's why Floyd ain't even on my top fighters list because the sport don't begin or end with him or Manny. I'm actually a fan of fighters that are fighting and fighting the best at that. Pac and Floyd are not doing it and to deny this would show a lil bias on your part because I didn't say this....

Misses: Whomever you want to blame, the bottom line is that Pacquiao is fighting Mosley -- who has looked absolutely abysmal in his last two fights -- instead of Floyd Mayweather Jr.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...dan&id=6393437

Or this.....

Roach said that though a “Mosley fight is probably the most exciting because they both like to fight,” it's all about making the fight on even terms.

"I have to protect my fighter,” said Roach, who administered the terms for Pacquiao and Oscar De La Hoya last year. “I spoke to Shane and told him that we would fight him at 142. He said he can’t make that weight.”

Mosley asked why not 147, as Manny/Oscar was set at 147? Roach said that Mosley is not De La Hoya in terms of setting a weight handicap.

Or this......

"Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. – and possibly Nonito Donaire – rank above him in pound-for-pound rankings. However, no fighter has accomplished more than Martinez over the past two years when you consider his opponents"
(RING MAGAZINE).

Or this....

"Shane called me earlier [Monday] and said that's it, he's had it," Shaefer said. "He's not waiting around anymore. He said, 'This guy [Pacquiao] is obviously scared of me. So let's move on.' Sugar Shane Mosley's career has not been built around Pacquiao. He already has a legacy of greatness. But eventually a Mayweather or Cotto or Pacquiao will need him. That day will come."

http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blo...pacquiao-dream

Or this......

If this doesn't say it all about Bob Arum's intentions on making this fight. I don't know what will.

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Arum also indicated he would like Pacquiao to get through the Hatton fight before going up against Mayweather saying“I want Mayweather to stay there (in retirement) until September. The longer he’s out the more rusty he’ll be."

December 16th 2008

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=17506

Or this....

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"It's not so much that I give a damn whether
this fight happens-- I don't -- and for me it's not the greatest experience doing a promotion with Floyd Mayweather," Arum said. "But not to do this fight would slow down the momentum of boxing."

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4672323

Or this......

Cotto won a bloody and highly competitive split decision against Joshua Clottey on Saturday to retain his version of the welterweight crown. Pacquiao sat ringside with Arum and told him during the fight, in which Cotto struggled at times, that he wanted to fight Cotto next.

http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blo...s-bid-pacquiao

Or this.....

SHANE MOSLEY: "I'M NOT GOING TO SAY PACQUIAO IS DOING ANYTHING, BUT HE IS A LITTLE QUESTIONABLE!"

Or this....

GL: What's your opinion on Floyd's position as it relates to Pacquiao taking these test?

SM: "I have to agree with them. Go ahead and take that test 30 days before.
I have to agree with Floyd on that one."

Or this.....

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"Mayweather is so different than our last four opponents [Cotto, Ricky Hatton, De La Hoya and David Diaz]. We have to study him really hard. But I know Mayweather really well. I just need Manny to see what I see." (Freddie Roach).

This is basically everything I have been posting about Pac that has been said by his own team and other professionals in the sport of boxing. I see it like this as well. How am I hating on Pac by stating the obvious? Talking about I don't know boxing? What a joke.

[jltsmae]

That's why Floyd ain't even on my top fighters list because the sport don't begin or end with him or Manny. I'm actually a fan of fighters that are fighting and fighting the best at that. Pac and Floyd are not doing it and to deny this would show a lil bias on your part because I didn't say this....



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This is basically everything I have been posting about Pac that has been said by his own team and other professionals in the sport of boxing. I see it like this as well. How am I hating on Pac by stating the obvious? Talking about I don't know boxing? What a joke.

Well, WElcome to The BUSIness Side Of the (Boxing) Sport.. Still don't know All this BS at this Very Moment???

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You give your opinions.. which may come across as reckless to other posters. Others opinions may come across as reckless to you personally.. I can tell you straight up.. he ain't offended that you're not a fan of pac cause right now.. JRo is ****tin on Manny for the fights he is taking.

I don't expect to agree with everyone but what I don't appreciate is how this guy be talking disrespectfully. Name one time that you EVER read me disrespect any poster like how he was disrespecting me. If I don't agree with a poster I state my case, I don't curse them out and call them names like a lil girl. that's lame no matter how you look at it.

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Well, WElcome to The BUSIness Side Of the (Boxing) Sport.. Still don't know All this BS at this Very Moment???

But this is still the same things I am addressing about Pac. They have been said by his own team and other people in the sport. How am I hating on Pac if the stuff has already been said? Tell me because I'm curious to know how I am hating?

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That's why Floyd ain't even on my top fighters list because the sport don't begin or end with him or Manny. I'm actually a fan of fighters that are fighting and fighting the best at that. Pac and Floyd are not doing it and to deny this would show a lil bias on your part because I didn't say this....

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This is basically everything I have been posting about Pac that has been said by his own team and other professionals in the sport of boxing. I see it like this as well. How am I hating on Pac by stating the obvious? Talking about I don't know boxing? What a joke.

Facts with links talk, bull**** walks...

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Facts with links talk, bull**** walks...

Lead, do you see how people on here keep trying to discredit me as a poster on boxingscene? It seems like their on a mission to make me look like I don't know anything. I can back up what I speak but none of them can.