Comments Thread For: Victor Ortiz on Pacquiao Fight: I Call The Shots, Not Arum

[Rome-By-Ko]

Ortiz is more qualified than Marquez for the following reasons.....
* he is a welter

Forget the rest.

/discussion

So once again Pac does not have to fight him,have you forgot that Pac can either move down or up??Discussion back open..

[LeadUppercut]

Manny has a hyped up resume??LOL so what does Ortiz have??

Cotto came in too fight Clottey weighing 146lb,soo what's ya point Cotto weigh what against Pac??

Clottey was a good win bro no matter how ya slice it..So was Hatton..

I am gonna pick up on this, please don't be offended buddy.....

When a fighter makes NO EFFORT WHATSOEVER to win, to the point where he is forced to come up with a series of bizarre excuses to justify a totally inept performance..... then I simply cannot understand how you could possibly give anyone credit for beating him.

Come on man, that was 12 rounds on the heavy bag, and nothing more.

Sorry, but that is blatant Manny-fluffing bro.

And my point was..... you and Jro have both tried to " reassure " me that Pac could actually beat a prime opponent who was on top of his game at 147, and I showed that when Manny fought a badly faded shop-worn Cotto who had been battered silly by Margarito, he tried to drain him down to 143, and that the only welter that Manny has EVER fought at 147 is Josh "I will not hurt you" Clottey.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/275865

[aznhybrid]

Like a BAWSE

[smokenace]

Haha cotto wont last vs ortiz

[LeadUppercut]

So once again Pac does not have to fight him,have you forgot that Pac can either move down or up??Discussion back open..

Nope, according to Team Pacquiao, the Marquez fight will not take place unless JMM jumps TWO DIVISIONS to 147.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-pacquiao-vs-marquez-147-no-fight--33333

I refuse to argue over whether a LW is more qualified to fight Pac than a welter.

/discussion, from me anyways, feel free to pick up with someone else

[LeadUppercut]

No way Bob allows Pac to fight someone with a pulse now that he knows Pacs fans will buy any pile of **** he puts in front of them. Bring on Pac vs the winner of Cotto-Margarito 2!!!

This thread proves that.

[Rome-By-Ko]

I am gonna pick up on this, please don't be offended buddy.....

When a fighter makes NO EFFORT WHATSOEVER to win, to the point where he is forced to come up with a series of bizarre excuses to justify a totally inept performance..... then I simply cannot understand how you could possibly give anyone credit for beating him.

Come on man, that was 12 rounds on the heavy bag, and nothing more.

Sorry, but that is blatant Manny-fluffing bro.

And my point was..... you and Jro have both tried to " reassure " me that Pac could actually beat a prime opponent who was on top of his game at 147, and I showed that when Manny fought a badly faded shop-worn Cotto who had been battered silly by Margarito, he tried to drain him down to 143, and that the only welter that Manny has EVER fought at 147 is Josh "I will not hurt you" Clottey.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/275865

You will say/do anything to discredit Pac bro so ya words are invalid to a point..Clottey was un able to do anything because of Manny not because it's not in his power to..Look at Clottey Marga's or Clottey Cotto he was in both fights why not with Manny??I'll tell ya why he was out of his league..Same with Cotto and Hatton..You just don't want to give Pac credit I understand..

Oh yea and if you believe Ortiz is prime you are also mistaken,yes he might be young but prime??Dude does not even have a Jab to speak of and you call this guy prime ya reaching..

[Rome-By-Ko]

Nope, according to Team Pacquiao, the Marquez fight will not take place unless JMM jumps TWO DIVISIONS to 147.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-pacquiao-vs-marquez-147-no-fight--33333

I refuse to argue over whether a LW is more qualified to fight Pac than a welter.

/discussion, from me anyways, feel free to pick up with someone else

I'm pretty sure nego's will change the weight JMM is the best and most deserving fighter Pac could fight..Base on resume and lack there of..Ortiz should be more worried about fighting some top young guy's and proving that his win over Berto was no fluke..

[marikudo]

Ortiz should get a rematch against Maidana. I will still go for Maidana. Maidana got Ortiz number. Ortiz will be an easy fight for Pacquiao. It will be a blowout. It might end Ortiz boxing career if ever he fights Pacquiao. And the money he will get might be his retirement pay.

[onechance87]

If floyd and manny dont fight each other,One of them better fight
ortiz next.