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  • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    Pressure cracks Cotto wide open. I give Ortiz a shot at Cotto. Pac not sure due to experience in big fights.
    Besides Marga's(who was a very big WW)named the fighter that Cotto lost to due to pressure??

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    • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
      I hear you and understand this but Pac ain't fight no winners or primed champions. So I'm not willing to say what Pac would do to Ortiz but I would say that mentally Pac can out tough Ortiz if he has any doubt in the ring against Manny.
      Yeah, I agree.....the P4P#1 guy should be fighting all comers and straight kicking azz but the business end of the sport really ruins it for the fans. It would be a great fight to say the least and I'd be all for it for sure.

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      • Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
        STOP !!

        The question was not " deserving ", the question was " qualified ".

        Ortiz is CLEARLY the #3 welter, and the most qualified.

        Marquez is a lightweight, although thoroughly deserving.
        JMM is calling out Pac is he not??If Pac said lets fight tomorrow at 147lb JMM is taking that fight..And like I said he is more deserving,as far as qualified tbh Ortiz is not..

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        • Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
          Well, like I said to Jro, your " assurance " on that is heart-warming, but not good enough.

          A good fighter will look great if he holds all of the advantages, and Pac has been feeding on old faded champions and stiffs since 2008.

          He did not want to fight a faded shop-worn Cotto who had been battered by both Margarito and Clottey unless he came in at catch-weight. ***'s sake, they even tried to drag Cotto down to 143

          And Cotto, is the " new " and " improved " Pacquiao's best win.

          I want proof, because ALL of the evidence - and there is plenty of that - points to Manny being a manufactured fighter with a hyped resume'.
          Manny has a hyped up resume??LOL so what does Ortiz have??

          Cotto came in too fight Clottey weighing 146lb,soo what's ya point Cotto weigh what against Pac??

          Clottey was a good win bro no matter how ya slice it..So was Hatton..

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          • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
            Pac can Martinez? WTF? What are you talking about now? First Floyd now what about Martinez?

            Who said Pac could beat Martinez? Either you trying to have some kind of other debate or are not reading what I'm typing.
            If that is true, then I expect your assistance in future when dealing with the swarms of wack-job Manny fan's who have taken over this site.

            And, you can start with your buddy "Top Rank", who not only thinks that Manny will fight Sergio Martinez, he thinks that Manny will win

            The funniest part of Top Rank's prediction, is not him thinking that Manny could win, it is him thinking that Manny would actually take that fight

            Look, no big deal, I just don't see the harm in Pac fighting a prime, young, hungry, opponent, who happens to be on top of his game..... for a change.

            Come on man, it's not like Manny's old or something.

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            • Originally posted by romebyko View Post
              It also would mean the end to another young Champion,Pac won't be around for ever(neither will Floyd)we need these young guy's fighting each other and proven who are the best between them imo..
              So who do Ortiz want him to fight??? Who is there for Pacquiao to fight after Mosley??? Imo, there is no other fight at 147 I'd rather see next.

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              • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                I'm not trying to do anything smart one. You're doing that all by yourself
                "jr@ssholes" nobody is cosigning you on here when it comes to me being "unintelligent". You are basically alone. It is sooo obvious that you are sweating me like a chick who acts like she has an attitude and doesn't like a guy but is straight up on his muscle by how my name is always in your mouth. Get off me fam because it ain't that kind of party. Stick to what you don't know best and that is boxing so we can continue to get our laughs off of your posts. You can't hang with me son.

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                • Originally posted by romebyko View Post
                  You must have missed the Pac Cotto fight,Cotto was coming off a win..
                  He was struggling with a bad cut over his eye and right after the fight Pac leaned in Arum's ear and said "I want Cotto next".

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                  • Originally posted by BoxeoBoriqua View Post
                    So who do Ortiz want him to fight??? Who is there for Pacquiao to fight after Mosley??? Imo, there is no other fight at 147 I'd rather see next.
                    I want Ortiz Jones or Ortiz Karass..Who ever fights Ortiz put Berto in with the other one..It's time to find out who is who..Pac should fight JMM and if May does not come out to play retire..

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                    • Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
                      If that is true, then I expect your assistance in future when dealing with the swarms of wack-job Manny fan's who have taken over this site.

                      And, you can start with your buddy "Top Rank", who not only thinks that Manny will fight Sergio Martinez, he thinks that Manny will win

                      The funniest part of Top Rank's prediction, is not him thinking that Manny could win, it is him thinking that Manny would actually take that fight

                      Look, no big deal, I just don't see the harm in Pac fighting a prime, young, hungry, opponent, who happens to be on top of his game..... for a change.

                      Come on man, it's not like Manny's old or something.
                      It's always the same with Pac fans. Pac won't fight Martinez because he too small translation: He's winning. Pac won't fight Ortiz because the kid ain't ready translation: He's winning. I think an Ortiz fight is better than a Mosley one at this point. Atleast Pac would get props for beating a prime, young fighter coming off of a big win. Berto would have even better for Pac than Mosley is. Atleast Berto was young, primed, undefeated and had a title BUT noooo Berto ain't good enough with all that but Mosley is? whenever somebody is winning or a threat for some reason he ain't ready for Pac or Pac is too small.

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