Who's the best heavy weight since Larry Holmes?

[pacquia0]

Lewis has longevity over Tyson. He beat alot of top fighters and a good Lineal Reign.

Like I said, I personally have Tyson over Lewis at HW.

But, I'm not going to be unreasonable and suggest Lewis doesn't have an argument, he evidently does.

Alot of those top fighters he beat were Tyson leftovers.

How does he have a good lineal reign? He won the title in a disputed fight against Holyfield then was stripped for not fighting his number one contenders. Also got KTFO by Rahman.

[IronDanHamza]

thats not the only thing i hang it on. but thats also pretty big to me. also...i said holyfield is atg higher, at heavyweight tho, its a different thing.

So, you do have Saddler over Pep, then?

H2H really means nothing in terms of greatness, atleast by most historians standards.

Pep-Saddler being the key reason why.

There really is NO arugment for Saddler being ranked higher than Pep, at all. Yet Saddler beat him 3 times.

Same goes for Lewis-Holyfield. Although I would say Lewis is probably ranked higher than Holyfield. There is so blatently an arugment for Holyfield being greater than Lewis at HW, the fact Lewis offically beat him doesn't account to that.

Also, I felt Holyfield edged him the second time. But again, not that it means anything.

[$tate of Mind]

the best heavyweight is wladimir klitschko.

lmao!!!!!!!

[Kagami Taiga]

So, you do have Saddler over Pep, then?

H2H really means nothing in terms of greatness, atleast by most historians standards.

Pep-Saddler being the key reason why.

There really is NO arugment for Saddler being ranked higher than Pep, at all. Yet Saddler beat him 3 times.

Same goes for Lewis-Holyfield. Although I would say Lewis is probably ranked higher than Holyfield. There is so blatently an arugment for Holyfield being greater than Lewis at HW, the fact Lewis offically beat him doesn't account to that.

Also, I felt Holyfield edged him the second time. But again, not that it means anything.

i would say once again, im not talking atg. im talking the best heavyweight reign since holmes. and to me, the fact that lewis beat holyfield at heavy is a huge part of his resume so, yes it does matter. im by no means saying its the only thing that does. but it does matter. so if ur asking me if it means something, then it does to me. if ur asking me if its what i base my decision off of, the answer is resoundingly no.

[bojangles1987]

Holyfield not being on the poll when he is the answer=serious fail.

[$tate of Mind]

lewis over klitchsko easily. what kinda question is that. klitchsko was prime. foreman was not.

holyfield also lost to a prime rid**** bowe as well. pls mention that. in total, lewis had the better reign. career wise, if u ask me it think holyfield ranks higher atg wise. but in heavyweight, lewis > holyfield. i mean, he beat him.

But Lewis was also knocked out by two bums in McCall and Rahman.

[IronDanHamza]

Alot of those top fighters he beat were Tyson leftovers.

How does he have a good lineal reign? He won the title in a disputed fight against Holyfield then was stripped for not fighting his number one contenders. Also got KTFO by Rahman.

Whether Tyson beat first or not. Lewis has alot of wins over the top fighters Tyson fought, Lewis has a list of good wins against Top fighters.

Lewis has longevity over Mike Tyson. And during his reign beat top fighters consistently.

He has two bad loss's but let's not forget he avenged both of them in good fashion.

Again, I have Tyson above Lewis, personally. But Lewis has an arugment, that's all there is to it.

[Kagami Taiga]

But Lewis was also knocked out by two bums in McCall and Rahman.

the fact that u call either of those guys bums is very telling. buster douglas is a true bum. neither of those fighters were bums.

[pacquia0]

the fact that u call either of those guys bums is very telling. buster douglas is a true bum. neither of those fighters were bums.

LOL the same Buster who beat mcall.

[IronDanHamza]

i would say once again, im not talking atg. im talking the best heavyweight reign since holmes. and to me, the fact that lewis beat holyfield at heavy is a huge part of his resume so, yes it does matter. im by no means saying its the only thing that does. but it does matter. so if ur asking me if it means something, then it does to me. if ur asking me if its what i base my decision off of, the answer is resoundingly no.

The fact Lewis beat Holyfield clearly the first time, past prime or not, obviously means something to his HW resume.

But you're using that as reasoning why Lewis should be ranked higher than Holyfield, which is kind of silly. And ontop of that, the 2nd fight was highly disputied and many people thought Holyfield won. I had Holyfield edging it, IMO.