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  • AL-MUQAWAMA
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    #71
    -Top Rank- (emphasis on the rank); how much do you get paid a year for sucking Bob Arum's lifeless old **** on this forum?



    ROT.

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    • Hi-Dro
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      #72
      Originally posted by P4P305
      Great post. I'm sure most Floyd fans like myself would've love for Floyd to be the one to took Berto's "0", but it is what it is. Pac and his team would've made a great statement by beating an undefeated fighter. I don't see what they'll gain now fighting Mosley other than $$$$.
      who cares if he was undefeated. What statement?

      By this logic you are implying that Sergio would have made a better statement beating undefeated Chavez Jr instead of Pwill....GTFO

      Yes Jr doesn't have a belt, as Berto did, but they're both on the same level to me. Yes I said it. I don't see anything special in Berto. He's just a hypejob.

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        #73
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        I don't get this question at all?

        Fact is Pac should be fighting Berto on May 7h, Pac should have fought Berto back in November.

        Berto losing, makes it irrelevant. Because, the fact is it wasn't Pac who beat him.

        Pac should have been the one taking this man "0" and unifying the titles. Not fighting another old washed up recycled figther.


        ^^^^


        this.................


        was most peoples arguments....arguably it would have been an exciting fight also and it had the benefit of unification, which made it all the more appealing if we had a May vs MP matchup later.

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        • jrosales13
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          #74
          Originally posted by Hi-Dro
          who cares if he was undefeated. What statement?

          By this logic you are implying that Sergio would have made a better statement beating undefeated Chavez Jr instead of Pwill....GTFO

          Yes Jr doesn't have a belt, as Berto did, but they're both on the same level to me. Yes I said it. I don't see anything special in Berto. He's just a hypejob.
          Well Berto was a title holder, Berto was a top 3 WW. It would be 2 top 3 WWs unifying the titles. And, perhaps be for the Ring title as well it it would have been vacant by that time.

          JCC is not a title holder, nor is he top 3 at MW, hell his not even rank at MW is he? I'm not sure.

          You can't compare the 2. The "0" wasn't the only reason why this fight should have happened. However, it is one of the reasons.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Hi-Dro
            who cares if he was undefeated. What statement?

            By this logic you are implying that Sergio would have made a better statement beating undefeated Chavez Jr instead of Pwill....GTFO

            Yes Jr doesn't have a belt, as Berto did, but they're both on the same level to me. Yes I said it. I don't see anything special in Berto. He's just a hypejob.
            I didn't mean it like that. I just think that it would've been a better momentum changer for Team Pacquiao to prove that they could've beaten someone as "then" undefeated as Floyd, and would have a more needed mental edge over Floyd.
            Last edited by Carpe Diem; 04-17-2011, 02:01 AM.

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              #76
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              Well Berto was a title holder, Berto was a top 3 WW. It would be 2 top 3 WWs unifying the titles. And, perhaps be for the Ring title as well it it would have been vacant by that time.

              JCC is not a title holder, nor is he top 3 at MW, hell his not even rank at MW is he? I'm not sure.

              You can't compare the 2. The "0" wasn't the only reason why this fight should have happened. However, it is one of the reasons.
              This is when the fan boys start to throw that "well can Berto beat Cotto?, can Berto beat Margarito?, can Berto beat Clottey?." Fckin pathetic eh?

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                #77
                Originally posted by goblin213
                This is when the fan boys start to throw that "well can Berto beat Cotto?, can Berto beat Margarito?, can Berto beat Clottey?." Fckin pathetic eh?
                To be honest I have seen enough of both guys fights to know Mosley is a better fighter.

                Berto looked like **** and while Mosley sucks...he is still a lot better than Berto, and would have put up a better fight.

                Being undefeated means **** unless you fight someone worth a d@mn....
                Last edited by Khalid X; 04-17-2011, 02:03 AM.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  Well Berto was a title holder, Berto was a top 3 WW. It would be 2 top 3 WWs unifying the titles. And, perhaps be for the Ring title as well it it would have been vacant by that time.

                  JCC is not a title holder, nor is he top 3 at MW, hell his not even rank at MW is he? I'm not sure.

                  You can't compare the 2. The "0" wasn't the only reason why this fight should have happened. However, it is one of the reasons.
                  A title holder who had not fought any legit 147 fighters, since he fought Collazo, which only reinforces my comparison to Chavez who is unproven as well. He was given the #3 spot; he didn't earn it.

                  He simply was, nor is a legit threat for Pac despite of the external factors, and reasoning many would like to emphasize; And Ortiz showed why, as he exposed his visible flaws, and took it to him. Berto wouldn't make it to the 7th round against Pac. And i'm giving him the 6th, as generosity. He's simply not on Pac's level, which is why Pac didn't miss out on anything, nor did we as fans.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by -Top Rank-
                    To be honest I have seen enough of both guys fights to know Mosley is a better fighter.

                    Berto looked like **** and while Mosley sucks...he is still better than Berto.
                    TR I love you and I thank you for all the HD videos on the video block section, but c'mon bro, it would've been nice to see Pacquiao fight and beat the **** outta a young undefeated hypejob for a change. It would've silenced the critics.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Hi-Dro
                      A title holder who had not fought any legit 147 fighters, since he fought Collazo, which only reinforces my comparison to Chavez who is unproven as well. He was given the #3 spot; he didn't earn it.

                      He simply was, nor is a legit threat for Pac despite of the external factors, and reasoning many would like to emphasize; And Ortiz showed why, as he exposed his visible flaws, and took it to him. Berto wouldn't make it to the 7th round against Pac. And i'm giving him the 6th, as generosity. He's simply not on Pac's level, which is why Pac didn't miss out on anything, nor did we as fans.
                      Manny would have taken him out in the first round from what I saw tonight. I'm sure this fight will still happen, so I'm going to laugh my @ss off when Manny decapitates Berto's overrated @ss.

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