Would you consider this a world record in boxing?

[V.WEBB]

PAC has achieved more in the last 2 years thN Mayweather has in his career

The even funnier part is the people agreeing with this character. Keep Mayweather out of the thread, for once.

[whirlwind]

I don't need to know what that link says.......fact is de la hoya fought 2 pounds at 150 because of a future manny fight at 147. And you still have yet to answer when de la hoya cotto or diaz were ring champs?

Keep playing word games I'll keep hitting you over the head with facts.

1. This thread is about Pac who did fought a champ on his very first fight (no tune up against bum) in every division he went in between featherweight up to welterweight. That was 5 in total. Why not just answer my question because I'm just merely asking if there is anybody there who did more than Pac? Anyway, to answer you question. Oscar and Diaz were not a ring champ but Oscar was a former WBC welterweight champ and Diaz was a WBC lightweight champ.

2. First you said.."Don't neglect to mention that oscar hadn't fought below 154 in about 7 years" which wasn't true. Next you said that I said..."you said ring magazine was all that mattered." which I didn't say like that. Then you also said..."he fought a tune up for the manny fight" which was also not true and presented you with facts (link). LMAO! but then you just told me..."I'll keep hitting you over the head with facts." LOL! SMH. I can't find any facts in your posts after all.

[GF of Boxing]

I don't know about him being the first to ever do it but to go up 14 pounds in 25 months against 5 quality fighters to me is impressive.

[Slick_Rick]

Oscar wanted to fight the winner of Margo/Cotto, but then wanted no part of it after seeing the fight, so then tried to cherry pick Manny himself.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?id=14387&m=show

"I've heard a lot of names being mentioned. Manny Pacquiao, which i think is a ridiculous fight. He's too small".

Floyd.Sr

[straightleft]

I don't know about him being the first to ever do it but to go up 14 pounds in 25 months against 5 quality fighters to me is impressive.

Its impressive but some people thought like it was nothing.

[jrosales13]

No he didn't win a title in his first fight at 147, he didn't go up 140, he actually went down to 140

So no he hasn't accomplish this, if you say he did then you have to say Oscar did as well.

Where he went down to 130 in his first fight and won a title, then going back up to 135 in his first fight and won a title, then going up in his first fight at 147 to win a title, then going up in his first fight to 154 to win a title, and finally going up to 160 in his first fight to win a title.

It can't be selective on what is considered first fight if being a tune up or not. If you going to give Pac credit for it then Oscar did it first.

And, if Oscar accomplished the same thing, then is not an accomplishment worth bragging about.

So please as Pac fans, lets stop the nonsense.

[Turok2]

No he didn't win a title in his first fight at 147, he didn't go up 140, he actually went down to 140

So no he hasn't accomplish this, if you say he did then you have to say Oscar did as well.

Where he went down to 130 in his first fight and won a title, then going back up to 135 in his first fight and won a title, then going up in his first fight at 147 to win a title, then going up in his first fight to 154 to win a title, and finally going up to 160 in his first fight to win a title.

It can't be selective on what is considered first fight if being a tune up or not. If you going to give Pac credit for it then Oscar did it first.

And, if Oscar accomplished the same thing, then is not an accomplishment worth bragging about.

So please as Pac fans, lets stop the nonsense.

[straightleft]

No he didn't win a title in his first fight at 147, he didn't go up 140, he actually went down to 140

So no he hasn't accomplish this, if you say he did then you have to say Oscar did as well.

Where he went down to 130 in his first fight and won a title, then going back up to 135 in his first fight and won a title, then going up in his first fight at 147 to win a title, then going up in his first fight to 154 to win a title, and finally going up to 160 in his first fight to win a title.

It can't be selective on what is considered first fight if being a tune up or not. If you going to give Pac credit for it then Oscar did it first.

And, if Oscar accomplished the same thing, then is not an accomplishment worth bragging about.

So please as Pac fans, lets stop the nonsense.

Oscar
Super Featherweight - Bredahl
Welterweight - Whitaker
Light Middleweight - Castillejo
MIddleweight - Sturm
total 4

That its, you can't include the 135 as he already fought there many times before the title and at 140 he didn't fought a champ on his very first fight.

Pacquiao
Featherweight - Barrera
Super Featherweight - Morales
Lightweight - Diaz
Light Welterweight - Hatton
Welterweight - Cotto
total 5

[betmen]

Champions as in belt holders? or Champions as in top fighters of that time?

As in belt holders....I know Barrera won a belt when he beat Morales or Naseem, I can't remember which but I know the belt was vacated shortly after. So Pacquiao didn't win a featherweight title from Barrera. Did he?

he did, ring magazine put their title at that fight as i recall..

[BTL]

That would have looked impressive to me but since that day when he acted funny on not taking the blood test... I see a dark cloud over manny.. Whenever I see him or see him fight.. I think of steroids.