Would you consider this a world record in boxing?

[whirlwind]

This ^^^^^^^^^^^

And cotto wasn't the ring champ either. So there goes that argument. And his first fight at 140 was after he already passed 140, and the last 3 of those divisions wins were against recently defeated fighters...............david diaz? enough said. Thats like claiming cotto fought the lineal champ in foreman.

Nice try though. Plus what about his previous 2 fights and upcoming bout?

Did you read my first post or you just reply anyhow randomly in this thread?

[Buffalo]

Pac was a super featherweight who fought only once at lightweight to be considered a welterweight but then fighting Oscar (a former welterweight champ as well) at welterweight in that time before the outcome was considered a suicide to the former flyweight champ who only fought once lightweight. So it still quite impressive.

Don't neglect to mention that oscar hadn't fought below 154 in about 7 years, so that was hardly suicide. It is far easier to go up in weight than down.

Pac is legendary and an all time great but he's been feed cherry picked opponents for at least 3 years now.

[Buffalo]

Did you read my first post or you just reply anyhow randomly in this thread?

I certainly did read your first post. When another poster pointed out that barrera wasn't the champ, you said ring magazine was all that mattered.

Well using your logic than diaz and cotto were not champs...........and oscar was manny's first welterweight fight. Spin it however you please, doesn't change facts

[whirlwind]

Don't neglect to mention that oscar hadn't fought below 154 in about 7 years, so that was hardly suicide. It is far easier to go up in weight than down.

Pac is legendary and an all time great but he's been feed cherry picked opponents for at least 3 years now.

Here you go again owning yourself bigtime. Oscar fought Forbes at 150 then his very next fight was against Pac at 147. LOL!

[whirlwind]

I certainly did read your first post. When another poster pointed out that barrera wasn't the champ, you said ring magazine was all that mattered.

Well using your logic than diaz and cotto were not champs...........and oscar was manny's first welterweight fight. Spin it however you please, doesn't change facts

You keep owning yourself again bigtime. Show me where I said the "all that mattered".

[Buffalo]

Here you go again owning yourself bigtime. Oscar fought Forbes at 150 then his very next fight was against Pac at 147. LOL!

Sure you got me, he fought a tune up for the manny fight against a reality show nobody after getting his @$$ handed to him by floyd at 154.......sure does prove your point about manny fighting lineal champs doesn't it? Again how and when was de la hoya champ at welter? How was cotto champ at welter?

You owning yourself bigtime again. Show where I said the "all that mattered".

I don't go back and repost nonsense, but anyone who can read can see that you got called out on barrera and your answer was RING MAGAZINE.....BLAH BLAH BLAH. Please tell me when diaz, cotto or de la hoya were ring champs at the weight they fought? To save time you can't because they WERE NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW WHO OWNED WHOM?

Are you going to answer the questions or just spew random nonsense about exact words?

[Buffalo]

Plus de la hoya hadn't fought at the 147 pound limit since 2001.

[whirlwind]

Sure you got me, he fought a tune up for the manny fight against a reality show nobody after getting his @$$ handed to him by sturm.

OMG! SMH. You never learn you lesson. Once again you owning yourself for another bigtime.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3248742

I got you again!

[Buffalo]

OMG! SMH. You never learn you lesson. You owning yourself for another bigtime.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=3248742

I don't need to know what that link says.......fact is de la hoya fought 2 pounds at 150 because of a future manny fight at 147. And you still have yet to answer when de la hoya cotto or diaz were ring champs?

Keep playing word games I'll keep hitting you over the head with facts.

[Buffalo]

Since floyd fought oscar at 154, why would oscar want to go down to prepare for another floyd fight?.....did oscar think he had an advantage at 147?