Shaver's Punching Power Is Completely Overrated.

[BKM-2010]

Wladimir is the Klitshko with KO power. Vitali is not a 1 punch KO guy at all. Get real.

Furthermore I agree with you that Shavers' power is overrated.

[Rassclot]

Wladimir is the Klitshko with KO power. Vitali is not a 1 punch KO guy at all. Get real.

Furthermore I agree with you that Shavers' power is overrated.

read the context.

i was using Vitali as a comparison to Shavers. Wlad definitely has more punching power.

[King Ghidorah]

read the context.

i was using Vitali as a comparison to Shavers. Wlad definitely has more punching power.

No he ****kin doesn't ...... Shavers had much heavier hands and more power behind them than *****ko sisters....

[nomadman]

It's called following the leader.

One person says something enough times until other people start believing it to be true, so they follow in line with it. Then so many people believe in it for so long till the point where majority believe in it and don't dare question or have another opinion just so they can sound smart or fall in line with it. poet is the perfect example of this.

anyways, i like your daring to question the masses. Not many people here do it for fear of flame and red k. But you did. I dig that.

Cheers buddy. I welcome the support.

[Rassclot]

No he ****kin doesn't ...... Shavers had much heavier hands and more power behind them than *****ko sisters....

sorry to expose your overrated hero.

either klitschko by brutal KO. Shavers is great at knocking out bums under 200 lbs.

[King Ghidorah]

sorry to expose your overrated hero.

either klitschko by brutal KO. Shavers is great at knocking out bums under 200 lbs.

Technically if he fought today he'd be an inch taller and have about a 20 lbs...

Actually all of those guys from the 70s,80s and 90s would be bigger with today's resources....

Ernie by way of brutal ko...

[nomadman]

In this case Holmes was actually in his prime against Shavers, not a 38 year old guy looking to cash in. The opposite for Briggs.

Tyson had a bit more than just power with which he managed to catch up to old Larry. Bit of a different look to the finishing combinations compared to Shavers's old strategy of throwing one hailmary bomb after another.

Holmes age shouldn't be brought up here, considering how long he went on to keep fighting for at a high level, and especially if you're going to bring up the Ali that fought Shavers.

The fact that Shavers dropped Holmes is impressive, but then so is the fact that Tyson KOed him. Yet for some reason the knockdown is held in higher regard than the actual knockout, despite Tyson landing an almost identical looking overhand right to the one that Shavers used to also drop Holmes. If we're measuring just power here, then you've got to say that Tyson's was at least comparable to Shaver's, given the similarity of both knockdowns. The follow up barrage that Tyson used to KO Holmes could fall into the realm of combination punching, finishing ability etc, but not that first knockdown.

People may criticize Shavers for not KO'ing Ali or Holmes but what if he had? Think it over for a moment. A limited slugger like him KO'ing two of the greatest? It's a huge accomplishment that he even came close to accomplishing that feat.

Supposing he had, in fact, knocked out both those fighters then I'd have had no hesitation in calling him one of the hardest punchers who ever lived. But he didn't so it's merely a supposition. But as for being close to doing so, in Holmes's case he got to his feet almost immediately and went on to dominate the rest of the fight. It wasn't a flash knockdown or anything of the sort, but it wasn't like Holmes was totally out of it either. Hurt and wobbly yes, but not at death's door. Against Ali, sure he rocked Ali a few times, but it was a way past his prime and faded Ali, as evidenced by the fact that he lost his very next fight against Spinks and two more after that.

[them_apples]

Let's get real for a second here. His KO power is comparable to Vitali Klitschko where they are just heavy handed thudding accumulative punchers.

Vitali has more 1 punch KO"s than Shavers.


Shannon Briggs said Vitali hit him harder than Foreman or Lewis....... but really who do you guys believe? Shannon or actual facts.

Shavers hurt a lot of people but was never able to put them away at the highest level and his 1 punch KO prowess is like the toothfairy.

Dude hit hard but to always bring his name up in historical context of punchers is biased and ******ed. Especially when everyone pretty much agrees one of the determining factors of KO power is 1 punch KO prowess. Holmes got caught about as flush as a man could and came back to beat his ass. Ali didnt even get dropped.


When you're talking the most poweful punchers you have to look at facts. 1 punch KO is the best indicator of KO power. David Tua, Mike Tyson, Joe Louis, Wlad Klit, Lennox Lewis and Rocky Marciano.


The end.

one punch KO power is as much as it is accuracy and speed than actual power. go get in the ring yourself before throwing ignorant facts out there. Tyson was very fast and caught people on the chin. Couple that with good punching power and you have yourself a KO artist.

Foreman in the 90's was said to have hit everyone the hardest yet he was so slow he couldn't catch anyone on the chin clean. On top of that, foreman in his old age only really threw short arm punches because he was so slow. In his prime he sat down on them.

Briggs was just saying that because he suffered a huge beating after talking so much ****. Doesn't change the fact that he ran from and old George in his prime, scared ****less every time he received a blow.

[etlux]

muhammad ali said earnie shavers was the hardest puncher he ever faced.

i'll take his opinion over yours.

Ali never faced Vitali.

[them_apples]

Technically if he fought today he'd be an inch taller and have about a 20 lbs...

Actually all of those guys from the 70s,80s and 90s would be bigger with today's resources....

Ernie by way of brutal ko...

he wouldn't be an inch taller but he might weight more if he lifted weights. As far as im concerned that doesn't really benefit boxing though. The explosive training would though, might offer him better hand speed.

Hw's aren't bigger now, they are either fatter or lift weights to get big. Norton was damn near 230 lbs of pure muscle and 0 fat by the end of his career, and that was the worst he had ever looked. Same goes for Holyfield. When he jacked up he got tired quicker and he was slower.

speaking of which, David Haye was only 212 lbs on fight night, and he took wlads punches in stride. Whats worse is David Haye doesn't even have a good chin.