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  • Russian Crushin
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    #21
    Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
    Peterson is a very good jww, he's even gotten the best of Bradley at times, not to be underestimated.
    Peterson pretty much got shut out by Bradley

    He's a good fighter who Ortiz knockdown and then pretty much lost the rest of the fight

    If he can only manage a draw against him, he has no chance against Berto.

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    • mrlopez
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      #22
      It'll only be exciting if Victor gets ktfo!

      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
      Victor looked terrible at 140 and he's going up against Berto who is a very good fighter with speed and power at 147
      Berto isnt a very good fighter, he's mediocre at best having fought NOBODY of note in the welterweight division while being champion and once again will be fighting a NOBODY who's never fought in the welterweight division.

      If Oritz does happen to win, Berto will look even more like an as.shole then he already is

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      • rochemback
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        #23
        I also feel this is a very underrated fight. A lot will depend on which version of Victor Ortiz shows up, but this matchup has the potential to be a lot better than most think.
        And there's a lot at stake for both, that's what makes it so exciting in the build-up.

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        • Russian Crushin
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          #24
          Originally posted by mrlopez
          It'll only be exciting if Victor gets ktfo!



          Berto isnt a very good fighter, he's mediocre at best having fought NOBODY of note in the welterweight division while being champion and once again will be fighting a NOBODY who's never fought in the welterweight division.

          If Oritz does happen to win, Berto will look even more like an as.shole then he already is
          Well i think Berto is a very good fighter even tho he hasnt faced anybody really.

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          • Sparked_1985
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            #25
            I can't see Berto having that much trouble.

            It's not exactly a pick 'em

            It's a shock is Ortiz gets him. Isn't it?

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            • namme
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              #26
              'Coz people don't like to see "quitters, like Ortiz" fight.

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              • Danny Gunz
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                #27
                Originally posted by Sparked_1985
                I can't see Berto having that much trouble.

                It's not exactly a pick 'em

                It's a shock is Ortiz gets him. Isn't it?
                Not exactly, I could see Ortiz getting a stoppage inside 4 rounds.

                Look at the Peterson and Maidana fight... yes I know he lost both of them, but he did drop both those guys early, and hit them with hard shots. Maidana isn't a defensive wizard but Peterson is a pretty good boxer. Ortiz still packs a punch and could drop Berto a couple times.

                With that said though Berto could put a beating on Ortiz all over the ring and that wouldnt really surprise me

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                • Sparked_1985
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Danny Gunz
                  Not exactly, I could see Ortiz getting a stoppage inside 4 rounds.

                  Look at the Peterson and Maidana fight... yes I know he lost both of them, but he did drop both those guys early, and hit them with hard shots. Maidana isn't a defensive wizard but Peterson is a pretty good boxer. Ortiz still packs a punch and could drop Berto a couple times.

                  With that said though Berto could put a beating on Ortiz all over the ring and that wouldnt really surprise me
                  I'll stay up and watch it. I'd like to think you're correct about your Ortiz appraisal.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                    Peterson pretty much got shut out by Bradley

                    He's a good fighter who Ortiz knockdown and then pretty much lost the rest of the fight

                    If he can only manage a draw against him, he has no chance against Berto.
                    Peterson aint no slouch... hes very underrated. And as the adage goes styles make fights, Bradley has a good style match up over peterson. I would be willing to bet Peterson could pull an upset on either Khan or Alexander.

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                    • Danny Gunz
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Sparked_1985
                      I'll stay up and watch it. I'd like to think you're correct about your Ortiz appraisal.
                      I don't exactly think Ortiz will win I just think it will be more competitive then people give it credit for. And both of these guys never get fair criticism.

                      People call Ortiz a quitter since the Maidana fight, even though he went on to fight Peterson and Berto who are both good fighters. At least he is still fighting some game opponents.

                      People call Berto a joke for his opponents. Although, before he fought terrible fighters Ortiz is still a step in the right direction for Berto.

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