A Good Hard Look at the Three Amigos

[Walt Liquor]

Yeah, I guess. We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this Morales-JMM-Barrera discussion. I just can't see it any other way.

I actaully think Mayweather has a better resume than Morales. I thought that was a given until I saw the thread

Morales has the better single wins though obviously.

But I understand what you're saying using this comparison.

good discussion though. thx

[Vasyl’s dad]

Marquez is not above Morales and Barrera in any way.

If you think he is above them,

you must be new to boxing.

[TOBYLEE1]

Marquez was side stepped by MAB and Morales early in their careers.

IMO there is no order, great fighters that fought great competition of their time.

Unless Marquez does something exceptional cause he looks like the one with the most gas in his tank and is one of today's top fighters. Also his style brings him less wear and tear than the other two

[Picazo]

Marquez was side stepped by MAB and Morales early in their careers.

IMO there is no order, great fighters that fought great competition of their time.

Unless Marquez does something exceptional cause he looks like the one with the most gas in his tank and is one of today's top fighters. Also his style brings him less wear and tear than the other two

I say Marquez is greater because I enjoy his style of fighting, to me hes a master in that ring. But I agree man they are all great and these 3 fighters are all masters in their own right.

[Steak]

Juan Manuel Marquez: 52-5-1-38 KOs

Notable Wins:

Micheal Katsidis TKO 9
Juan Diaz I TKO 9
Joel Casamayor TKO 11
Rocky Juarez UD 12
Marco Antonio Barrera UD 12
Orlando Salido UD 12
Derrick Gainer TD 7
Manuel Medina TKO 7
Robbie Peden TKO 10
Agapito Sanchez UD 12

Notable Draw:

Manny Pacquiao D 12

Losses:

Floyd Mayweather UD 12
Manny Pacquiao SD 12
Chris John UD 12
Freddie Norwood UD 12
Javier Duran DQ (first pro fight)

Notes:

• John & Norwood decisions could have easily gone either way.
• Both Pacquiao decisions were controversial; Many say JMM won both fights.
• In fights vs Pacquiao, he has won the majority of rounds.
• Mayweather failed to make weight and was visibly 2 weight classes bigger than Marquez on fight night.
• Has never been stopped.
• Winner of the 2009 Ring Magazine FOTY vs Juan Diaz

Erik Morales: 51-7-0-35 KOs

Notable Wins:

Manny Pacquiao UD 12
Carlos Hernandez UD 12
Jesus Chavez UD 12
Paulie Ayala UD 12
Kevin Kelley TKO 7
Marco Antonio Barrera I SD 12
Wayne McCullough UD 12
Junior Jones TKO 4
Daniel Zaragoza KO 11

Losses:

Marcos Maidana MD 12
David Diaz UD 12
Manny Pacquiao II KO 3
Manny Pacquiao III TKO 10
Zahir Raheem UD 12
Marco Antonio Barrera II UD 12
Marco Antonio Barrera III MD 12

Notes:

• The last fighter to have defeated Manny Pacquiao.
• Last two decision losses (vs Maidana & Diaz) were controversial.
• Won 2000 Ring FOTY vs MAB

Marco Antonio Barrera: 67-7-0-44 KOs

Notable Wins:

Rocky Juarez I UD 12
Rocky Juarez II SD 12
Robbie Peden UD 12
Erik Morales II UD 12
Erik Morales III MD 12
Paulie Ayala TKO 10
Kevin Kelley TKO 4
Johnny Tapia UD 12
Naseem Hamed UD 12
Kennedy McKinney TKO 12
Agapito Sanchez UD 12

Losses:

Amir Khan TD 5
Manny Pacquiao II UD 12
Juan Manuel Marquez UD 12
Manny Pacquiao I TKO 11
Erik Morales I SD 12
Junior Jones II UD 12
Junior Jones I TKO 5

Notes:

• Won 2004 Ring FOTY vs Erik Morales

Salido and Sanchez were not good wins for Marquez.

and yet you overlook Barrera's wins over Fana(which is looking better and better in hindsight), and Morales' wins over Espadasx2 and In-Jin Chi.

[Rab-]

Morales and MAB were champions since the 90s while JMM became a champion in 2003. WTF is wrong with you ******s, EM and MAB were going to war YEARS before JMM. Morales became world champion by beating Daniel ****ing Zaragoza and knocking him out. That alone ****s on anything Marquez has done.

[Toney Loc]

Barrera is the better boxer than both of them.

[SCtrojansbaby]

When you look at the resume Barrera is clearly #1.

[2501]

If JMM wins a 4 divisional title, he surpasses them.

[TintaBoricua]

Serious question: Why isn't JMM ranked equally as high as MAB and EM? What have they done that outshines JMM's accomplishments? I ask this because whenever these three names come up, people pretty much agree that EM and MAB are a notch higher.

People mention that they were in wars and that's why but to be fair that isn't JMM's fault if he's a technician or not involved in big exchanges when fighting.