Why is it that Cotto and Margarito get called warriors?

[Walterson]

coz it would fckin suck for the the rest of the warriors to be grouped with floyd...

Well it wouldn't be as bad as being below him on the pound for pound list .. SMH

[Team Vitaminas]

Cotto isn't a warrior ! If he's a warrior then Victor Ortiz is one too.lol

[Walt Liquor]

Obviously it's cuz Floyd is black.

[edgarg]

"warrior" doesn't mean winning multiple belts in multiple weight classes, it's reference is that of someone who displays tremendous heart, never backs down, takes on all challengers. A warrior. (see Erik Morales against Maidana).

Floyd doesn't get called a warrior because he's never showed that type of mentality in the ring. Granted he's never had to (which is why he's great in his own right), but he's never really had to face adversity in the ring and go toe to toe, nor has he recently been one take on all challenges (when he was younger he did).

I don't call Mayweather "great" although I KNOW that good boxing requires one to hit and not be hit etc. My trainer used to say "don't take one to give one, but take none and give two". I always went into a fight with that intention, but as soon as the bell rang, I went after the guy. Admittedly I never had even a nosebleed in 62 fights, but that wasn't because I was an evasive fighter but because I was an ATTACKING fighter. And I was lucky.

But Mayweather actually has had at least TWO fights where he has had to pull out everything he knew, and get into the trenches to survive. One was against Emmanuel Augustus, a much underrated fight and fighter, which was neck-and-neck, give-and-take for the whole 9 rds it lasted, when Mayweather was fortunate to score with a body shot which had a bad effect. It's not for nothing that Mayweather, to this day says it was the hardest fight he has had.

Augustus at this point, had a record which was about 21-18 or something ridiculous like that. You guys should look it up on Youtube, it will be an education, and a puzzle as to how Augustus had such a bad record.

The other fight was against J.L. Castillo, again a much underrated fighter, which many, including myself, think Mayweather lost, or at very best, drew. The judges cards did not reflect the fight itself, which was Castillo pressure the whole way.

I can't even think of any other Mayweather fight that was even half worth while watching by comparison.

[edgarg]

So moving up in weight to take on someone bigger and stronger than you isn't challenging?

It's easy being a warrior when taking on people your own size, as Floyd did in the lower weights, and as Cotto and Marg, are doing now.

But I doubt they'll be acting like warriors if they moved up in weight to take on boxers who are 75% more likely going to knock them out.

Nothing but the truth!

No, in the case of both guys it's the fact that even though they are taking heavy punishment, they never flinch, and keep moving forward, never showing any "survival" tactics, often right into the artillery fire, and throwing punches all the time, Margarito quite a bit more than Cotto.

Trinidad was like that too but with a lot more boxing skill. Calzaghe was like that, as well, and like Trinidad, was able to turn it up a notch when up against it.

[GrandpaBernard]

Thanks for pointing out the obvious!

Margarito's a warrior for taking Mosley's punches and getting knocked out.

Mayweather's not a warrior for taking Mosley's punches and beating him up.

Exactly, they expect someone who's great enough not to get hit very often to allow himself to be hit in order to show "heart" or be cool in their eyes. **** is ridiculous

[Bushbaby]

Margarito called out Floyd,ran him from his own interview.
JMM calls out Floyd,is 135lber,Floyd fights him.
Floyd then says he fights whoever calls him out.

[edgarg]

I can agree with a few of your points. However, please tell me where Cotto overcame adversity to win? His best win was Mosley, however, he ran during the championship rounds.

Being a warrior doesn't neccessarily mean to win, but can just as easily mean how you lost.

I'd think that this should be clear to you by now.

[Larsams]

"warrior" doesn't mean winning multiple belts in multiple weight classes, it's reference is that of someone who displays tremendous heart, never backs down, takes on all challengers. A warrior. (see Erik Morales against Maidana).

Floyd doesn't get called a warrior because he's never showed that type of mentality in the ring. Granted he's never had to (which is why he's great in his own right), but he's never really had to face adversity in the ring and go toe to toe, nor has he recently been one take on all challenges (when he was younger he did).

and this is the problem....fame and glory is all great when your old and in the future, but it doesn't put food on the table in the present...one lose and your pay goes way down....so keep fighting the ones you know you can beat and keep getting paid...like all the rest the business side has surpass the sporting side..

[baCCaT]

like natas said.

not calling floyd a warrior isnt a negative one. because the skillset he possess is more than enough to get him the win.