Martinez didnt have not 1 hater until he called out floyd and manny..why is that??

[mushahadeen]

uh sergio martinez is a ******ed n00b that has nothing to do with floyd or manny.

sergio needs to fire the part-time personal trainer he got @ 24 hour fitness and hire a professional to teach him a proper boxing stance. either that or just commit full time to bicycle riding @ the Tour de Gay.

[BuckToothed]

Martinez's last 3 fights are better than Manny & Floyd's last 3.Their so called not belonging there also doesn't change the fact that they do indeed own 154lb titles on their records.Martinez has never asked for a fight at 160,he asked for it at 154.154 is not a catchweight.What's funny is that Pacman fans readily call the Margarito catchweight title fight a farce,but still want him to maintain his standing atop the sport even though they admit that this Mosley fight is also garbage.Exactly how many passes does he deserve??Also why can't a fighter that's been smashing quality guys topple him??

Floyd and Manny are getting a pass from not fighting the lineal middleweight champion of the world. I stand by that statement.
Floyd and Manny are NOT getting a pass from NOT fighting each other.
If he wants to surpass these two as P4P #1, then he needs to challenge one of the top 5 super middleweight.
He can do what Floyd and Manny did, test the waters 1 division up.
Sergio is a bonafide middleweight, given that he is the lineal champion.

[Bushbaby]

[QUOTE=BuckToothed;10360702]Floyd and Manny are getting a pass from not fighting the lineal middleweight champion of the world. I stand by that statement.
Floyd and Manny are NOT getting a pass from NOT fighting each other.
If he wants to surpass these two as P4P #1, then he needs to challenge one of the top 5 super middleweight.
He can do what Floyd and Manny did, test the waters 1 division up.
Sergio is a bonafide middleweight, given that he is the lineal champion.[/QUOTE]

No actually,he's the lineal champion because he beat the lineal champion.Sounds to me like ur saying Pacman maintains his #1 status by beating,old washed up,punch worn fighters,but Martinez has to go to 168 & (test the waters) to pass them,correct??Now as a Martinez fan,having him go to 168 to test the waters by beating some bum for a gimme title is simply unacceptable.IMO,the top 3 fighters in boxing have all had titles at 154,there just isn't any real reason why they can't find out who's the best between them there.Manny fought Margarito there,Floyd an aging Oscar,why can't they fight Martinez there??Is it because he beats them both??

[Steven Adams]

lets be honest... Manny won a vacant 154lb title

and Maravilla is a genuine threat to *****s and ******* gods

[Steven Adams]

Floyd and Manny are getting a pass from not fighting the lineal middleweight champion of the world. I stand by that statement.
Floyd and Manny are NOT getting a pass from NOT fighting each other.
If he wants to surpass these two as P4P #1, then he needs to challenge one of the top 5 super middleweight.
He can do what Floyd and Manny did, test the waters 1 division up.
Sergio is a bonafide middleweight, given that he is the lineal champion.

no he aint... hater.

LOL

[Uturn]

Once you turn 'ELITE' they're will be haters, it's mandatory.

[BuckToothed]

No actually,he's the lineal champion because he beat the lineal champion.Sounds to me like ur saying Pacman maintains his #1 status by beating,old washed up,punch worn fighters,but Martinez has to go to 168 & (test the waters) to pass them,correct??Now as a Martinez fan,having him go to 168 to test the waters by beating some bum for a gimme title is simply unacceptable.IMO,the top 3 fighters in boxing have all had titles at 154,there just isn't any real reason why they can't find out who's the best between them there.Manny fought Margarito there,Floyd an aging Oscar,why can't they fight Martinez there??Is it because he beats them both??

What I'm saying is that Sergio is a bonafide middleweight by beating the lineal champion there, he didn't beat a paper champ.
Manny fighting Margarito (a career 147lber) at 150 doesn't make Manny a bonafide JMW.
If Manny continues to fight washed up fighters then he deserves to lose the #1 spot, as long as Sergio continues to fight quality opponents.
(BTW, Dzinziruk is a JMW, I don't know if I want to give Sergio that much credit for that.)
Also, I didn't say for Sergio to fight ANY 168lbers, I said fight someone from the top 5 If he wants to be considered P4P #1.
If he fights Ward or Bute, I can't see why he isn't a P4P#1 as long as Manny and Floyd hasn't fought each other (then the winner should be P4P#1).
IMO, P4P, Sergio does not beat the 147 versions of Manny and Floyd.

[studentofthegam]

Its simple. If he was battered and bruised on his way to victory then he would be a God. They hate it when someone makes it look easy. Martinez has the ring swagg of Roy, the stand and fight qualities of Morales and the humbly natured interviews of the Pacman. How does one hate that? Computer punks, thats how.