Comments Thread For: Haye: I'll Give Wladimir Violent Flashbacks of Sanders!

[reeflegend]

Please

Can someone please remind me who The Klit is fighting?? Isn't it David Haye? I mean, it's only David Haye...anyone that follows boxing only heard of him because of the **** talking. I mean if u really follow boxing you prolly know he use to be a cruiserweight champ. But no one gave a ****. Now we fought some serious fights to make him open up the world's eyes...The Giant. (what a powerful beast he was.) Haye ran..but did enough to win....GREAT JOB CHAMP!! Then he goes on to fight Ruiz....Now, i dunno what you expected from a guy that fought roy jones almost ten years ago for a belt. But he did better than i thought....Haye won..Now he's got the world really saying..Wow, this man sure is talented. And did he ever prove it in the Audley Harrison fight.....Haye's tenacious demeanor really go to Harrison..The guy couldn't even throw a punch!! Now after these fights..everyone is saying wow..i can see why..I am too. I mean David F'in Haye!!!

Can you clowns stop dissecting a fight 7-8 years ago. It's silly. I mean it's okay to have your opinion, but if u hate a Klit, your just hating them cause u wanna see a change in the division. They are good boxers, Steward is a hell of a trainer. He makes Wlad better every time he goes out there...If u actually think Haye is gotta shot, it's only cause this is boxing and he's gotta puncher's chance...

Stop with the sillyness...Thank god these guys are fighting already

[edgarg]

When did I hear this before? Oh that's right Haye has been telling everyone and anyone that will listen to him what he was going to do at heavyweight and all of it has been nothing more then a hype job. What I see in Haye's future is that he will come out fast and gas when he is winging his wide power shots while Wlad impales him with his jab. Or Haye may try to run and do sneak attacks and realize wow this ain't Valuev, while again Wlad impales him with his jab. And all these Haye fans believe it is Wlad who has something prove when I believe it is the other way around. Simply because Wlad is a known commodity at heavyweight and Haye has proved little to nothing in the division. And he is the one that has everything to prove. I see this fight as an easier then expected win for Wlad "The Impaler".

Pretty apt, reminds me of the good old days when I used to drink nothing but the finest vintage blood. Blue blood in fact from the most noble families.

Now we have a fight (are we sure?) between WK and a guy named Haye, and Although usually fighters NEVER tell the public their exact tactics they are going to use, i think that in this case it will be different.

Klitschko bears Haye an enormous resentment and has said he will PUNISH him for 12 rds and then knock him out. I tend to believe him, because, in this match up, as in the vast majority of Klitschko fights, there has been just nothig at all that their opponents have been able to do against them.

So why should this one be different, Klitschko wants to punish Haye and humiliate him.

I believe he will with a late rd stoppage (not neccessarily the 12th)..

[edgarg]

This dude is unsure of himself... talking about blasting Wlad away but then states it's going to be a difficult task to beat him. Deep down he knows that he's just talking big to psyche himself up & really is unsure of himself. He's never fought anyone like Klitschko before & will see the difference in class. He's going to be on his bicycle & it's going to be Wlad that chases himaround the ring. Wlad is pretty good at cutting off the ring & will stick the pole jab in his face. They'll both be timid but it's Wlad that will have the advantage with his jab. David will look to counter most of the night..first strong punch Wlad lands will put him down.. the only question is if Wlad lets his hands go..Haye relies on his speed & footwork to defend while Wlad uses his jab & will hold you if you get too close to him. Should be a great one & we'll really find out who's scared of who by how they fight early on. Could be they'll both be scared ****less of each other.

Jimmy, I doubt that the;d be BOTH scared of one another. Haye probably, but not Klitschko. He intends to punish him and then knock him out. I believe what he has said, although normally fighters never truly disclose their coming fight tactics.

And I don't think that Haye will be able to do a thing about it except an occasional "flail away" then duck and run back. Like he did with Valuev, a vastly LESS dangerous fighter than Klitschko.

[edgarg]

Vitali would just stalk David until he catches him. Haye can't do what he did with Valuev vs the Klischkos as they are way faster & more accurate in landing there shots. Haye is not some sort of defensive wizard...he's just fast on his feet... Solis.. more relies on actually blocking your shots & is fast when letting his hands go. They are not defensive guys in the mode of Kevin Johnson... Chris Byrd or James Toney as those guys actually made you miss & relied on timing... reflexes & upper body movement.

Haye can get hit & we saw how Solis can as well.. YoU'vE GOT TO HAVE SIZE.. POWER & EXceptional speed to compete with them. 4 OF THERE 5 losses were due to injuries & gassing out... They've shored up that aspect of there games... So blitzing them by countering after they miss is your only shot like Corrie Sanders did in 2 rds... You're NOT outboxing them no matter what you do so forget about ANY boxing decisions.

These Klitschko's rarely even lose 2 rds in a fight.. Sanders is THE ONLY FIGHTER to be ahead of them on the scorecards at the end of a Klitschko fight & we're talking 102 fights here.. The only real shot you have is KNOCKING them out early because chances are NOT good that you'll be fresh enough to do so in the mid to late rds when they're getting ready to stop you.

If you're counting on cuts ..shoulder injuries & gassing out after throwing the kitchen sink at there opponents.. you'll be counting wrong as that's already happened to them twice apiece & is highly unlikely to happen again a.. firstly as Wlad's style is much more measured under Steward & he paces himself while cutting Vitali to get your W & HAVING HIS SHOULDER come out of it's socket only happens once in a lifetime... then again The Sanders outcome is ALSO a onetime occurence.. You're probably **** out of luck... 97-5 = 95.1% winning percentage for the Klitschko's... so it's really 19.4 to 1 odds against you to defeat them... 4.9% is the REAL chance you have.

A VERY telling and explanatory post. Even all the DUMBOS who write in their illiterate rubbish should be able to understand the meaning of your post. If they can read.

[edgarg]

First I've heard that one, lol.

My only problem with the Brewster fight is that Lamon did hit him after the bell with a solid left hook. Just barely, but clearly after the bell. While he shouldn't have been penalized, I'd like to have seen Wlad get a minute to recover, especially since he beat the count.

Most refs count slower than the real seconds. But they are supposed to keep an eye on the ringside timekeeper who gives them their cues. One just has to look at a watch second hand to realise haw fast 10 seconds actually is.

The WORST count I ever saw (probably the slowest in history) was the Tyson-Douglas fight, where Tyson put him down in the 8th for, I estimate at least a 14 second count up to 8.

About the ONLY time I felt supportive of Don King, when he tried to get the dsecision reversed into a KO for Tyson, because of that count.

AND, a small but vital point about counts that I believe NO ONE has ever considered.

When the ref counts to, and says "10", he immediately waves it off on the exact 10 count, when he should REALLY wait until the 10th second has actually elapsed. He's waving it off after only 9 seconds. the fighter doesn't get the FULL 10 seconds.

Just think about it.

[REMOVED SHARK 97]

If Haye doesn't KO Wlad I'll be surprised.

[hweightblogger]

people lie

these images don't lie



when the irrelevant butt occurs

So funny that you post some low quality gif that skips 80% of the action.

Yes, there have been aproximately 7-8 headbutts.

But it was the ANVILING that knocked Wlad down: Sanders punched with his strong left while on the right side he held his head as an anvil. It's not a headbutt per se but the combination of punching AGAINST the anviling head.

Wlad gets up (blood drips on his chest) but never recovers.

Now, most of it was Wlad's FAULT. But you cannot conclude a china chin from the Sanders fight.

The same applies to Puritty (Wlad's corner throws the towel) and Brewster (who did't even floor Wlad): Whether Wlad has (or rather had) a weak chin is still UNCLEAR. His KOlosses are BAD INDICATORS for a weak chin.

And please: Watch a high quality version and spare us 12fps gifs. And hey, the next time PLEASE do us a favor and post a slow motion gif, not a fast forward one.

[Tiozzo]

So funny that you post some low quality gif that skips 80% of the action.

Yes, there have been aproximately 7-8 headbutts.

But it was the ANVILING that knocked Wlad down: Sanders punched with his strong left while on the right side he held his head as an anvil. It's not a headbutt per se but the combination of punching AGAINST the anviling head.

Wlad gets up (blood drips on his chest) but never recovers.

Now, most of it was Wlad's FAULT. But you cannot conclude a china chin from the Sanders fight.

The same applies to Puritty (Wlad's corner throws the towel) and Brewster (who did't even floor Wlad): Whether Wlad has (or rather had) a weak chin is still UNCLEAR. His KOlosses are BAD INDICATORS for a weak chin.

And please: Watch a high quality version and spare us 12fps gifs. And hey, the next time PLEASE do us a favor and post a slow motion gif, not a fast forward one.

wake up dude, I'm not the one who has said several headbutts occured, so I have nothing to prove

as for the vids I have posted, theyre relevant anyway since that in all of them minus one, their heads don't even come close, so there are no headbutts possible

YOU AND EDGARG, ON THE OTHER HAND, HAVE SOMETHING TO PROVE, YOU HAVE TO POST EVIDENCE AND SLOW-MO VIDEOS TO PROVE YOUR POINT

it's no surprise Edgarg has crawled back to his hole now that he has been exposed as a liar and refused by ignoring my legitimate request that he shall post evidence to his claim

all talk, nuthugging and ******ity = Edgar old and senile man G

now, if you want to do like Edgarg, lie without backing your **** up, get out of here, you're of no use and you have no credibility

POST EVIDENCE

***on a side note, I don't conclude to a china chin based on the Sanders fight, but I do conclude Wlad is a bully, he has no heart, you just have to give him the heat and he will be like a scared child in that ring, getting hammered all around

[Dave Rado]

the tough thing is not to get past that jab, which is pretty easy to do in fact

it is to get past the clinch that awaits you once you get inside on Wlad

It is to get past the jab and land cleanly.

Chagaev, as can be seen in the video, didn't try hard enough, didn't put the pressure like a Brewster or a Sanders did

You said before that he looked like a scared bitch. He didn't look like anything of the sort. He did try to put pressure on, by using a massive amount of head and upper body movement to elude the jab, while moving forward and trying to get in range. But the punches he threw were all short of the target, and despite all his head movement, the jab kept landing, especially in the middle rounds.

Wlad's timing and jab are far better now than when he fought Sanders and Brewster and he clinches more effectively now, and you refuse to take that into account. It's far harder to put effective pressure on him now than it was back then.

he was a sitting duck for most of the round, trying a shy jab to the middle section when he should have been getting inside and hooking to the head

Sitting duck my arse - his head and body movement were better than Haye's ever are. He didn't have enough lateral movement though.

he got inside twice in the first round and couldn't capitalize, as Wlad held him like he's done his whole career

And Haye will have the same problem.

Ali, Lewis, Mosley, Hopkins, and many other ATGs used holding as a tactic. It's part of boxing whether you like it or not.

Chambers now

again, as can be seen in the video, you are wrong, Chambers didn't come out aggressive, he came out on the back foot, moving and boxing, utilizing his jab, avoiding exchanges

I did not say Chambers came out aggressively (although he was as aggressive as he ever is - he is a defensive counter-puncher, that's his style.) I said he came out pumped up and ready to go, and he did. I said that you were wrong to claim he looked like a scared bitch, and you were, he looked anything but scared. He even lifted Wlad over his shoulder FFS.

He was fighting his normal style, trying to be elusive and to counter whenever he could. And he actually threw more punches in the first round (all counters) than most of Wlad's opponents have done.

Peter II came out pretty aggressive (still not enough for my taste), and we can see how much it bothers Wlad

You said before that Peter looked like a scared bitch and he looked anything but.

Wlad wasn't seriously bothered. He timed Peter well and won every round.

Wlad was keeping his left glove in Peter's face, which is illegal and called measuring, being the coward he really is, while Peter was having a bit of success early on, bobbing and punching, so Wlad clinched whenever he felt was necessary

You must regard Ali as the most cowardly fighter of all time, judging by your posts.

[Tiozzo]

It is to get past the jab and land cleanly.



You said before that he looked like a scared bitch. He didn't look like anything of the sort. He did try to put pressure on, by using a massive amount of head and upper body movement to elude the jab, while moving forward and trying to get in range. But the punches he threw were all short of the target, and despite all his head movement, the jab kept landing, especially in the middle rounds.

Wlad's timing and jab are far better now than when he fought Sanders and Brewster and he clinches more effectively now, and you refuse to take that into account. It's far harder to put effective pressure on him now than it was back then.



Sitting duck my arse - his head and body movement were better than Haye's ever are. He didn't have enough lateral movement though.



And Haye will have the same problem.

Ali, Lewis, Mosley, Hopkins, and many other ATGs used holding as a tactic. It's part of boxing whether you like it or not.



I did not say Chambers came out aggressively (although he was as aggressive as he ever is - he is a defensive counter-puncher, that's his style.) I said he came out pumped up and ready to go, and he did. I said that you were wrong to claim he looked like a scared bitch, and you were, he looked anything but scared. He even lifted Wlad over his shoulder FFS.

He was fighting his normal style, trying to be elusive and to counter whenever he could. And he actually threw more punches in the first round (all counters) than most of Wlad's opponents have done.



You said before that Peter looked like a scared bitch and he looked anything but.

Wlad wasn't seriously bothered. He timed Peter well and won every round.

You must regard Ali as the most cowardly fighter of all time, judging by your posts.

The name of the game isn't holding, it's boxing

of course it's part of it, I have no problem with a fighter who uses it sometimes, but when holding is part of your arsenal like Wlad, this is boring and disgusting AND ILLEGAL

Wlad is worst than Ali in that category

Ali used to hang on to the neck of his adversaries, which doesn't stop them from punching as effectively as hugging them like Wlad does

I might add that Ali could actually block a punch with his arms, Wlad almost never does that in close quarters, he's too scared one of them might get through, so he holds like a bitsh

I mean common, a man his size fighting like that, it's unbelievable cowardice, he is a bully, and when things aren't going his way, he crumbles, his weak heart falls apart, splashes on the mat

Sanders exposed that, and I love him for that reason

as for Chagaev, when you stay right in front of a man twice your size, at the end of his punches, you're a sitting duck, like it or not, and guess what, the sitting duck eventually got pummeled and knocked out

you should watch the stare down in the middle of the ring again, and then you can come back and tell me Chambers wasn't scared