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I don't believe that Maidana got $550k. He never confirmed that, the figure is just speculation on the part of a reporter. All Maidana had to do in order to force Khan to give him 45% of the purse or be stripped was to sit it out. Given that, why would he be ****** enough to agree to take far less than he was legally entitled to get under the WBA's rules, when the WBA had already ordered a purse bid at a 55/45 purse split, and had told Khan they would strip him if he didn't comply? And why would Maidana bother to get the WBA involved if he didn't want to use them as leverage to get his entitlement?
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Beyond what I can clearly perceive of his market-value, I don't typically study what a fighter makes; it's not of that great an interest to me. But I've done some research because I doubted your claim.
If the $550,000 is just some reporter's speculative figure, if the proposed purse bid went through and the split was enforced at 55-45, what figure were they splitting between them?
I know Maidana was set to receive a bonus if he won; why the need for a bonus if the bid was held and the split was so close to even?
This
came the day after this
As per Richard Schaefer,
"There was some urgency for us to make a deal because of the purse bid coming up, but now we have a deal and I will inform the WBA that the fighters have reached agreement."
^^ Seems to suggest a purse-bid was threatened, but quickly precluded when the parties reached their own deal, no?
From the same article,
"Khan, who will be making his third defense, will get at least $1.5 million, plus revenue from the television rights in the United Kingdom. Maidana will earn $550,000 plus an undisclosed bump if he wins the fight."
A few months after, on the eve of the fight, the Nevada State Athletic Commission released the purse info and Maidana's purse was confirmed at $550,000,
"Nevada State Athletic Commission announced that WBA junior middleweight champion Amir Khan will receive $975,000 for the fight with Marcos Maidana on December 11 at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. This is not the full salary that Khan will get – it doesn’t include the UK television rights and sponsorship money. Maidana will receive $550,000."
So how do you know better that Maidana made nearly a million bucks from the fight? Where's your source?
Don't waste my time splitting hairs, Rado.
"Far more shot", LMAO. Barrera was ****in' spent and blown-up when Khan fought him, laboring against non-world class comp just as Morales has been (actually, Morales' comp since Diaz has been much better than Barrera's was after Pacquiao II), that's why Barrera was handpicked and approved by Roach; if not for the doubts over his chin, Khan would have been an even wider betting favourite than he was. And Khan certainly was well paid for the fight and has never been underpaid or had to take the short end of the deal for any fight; LOL, why do you think Marco would take that fight if a lot of money wasn't flowing around the table?
It's a perfectly reasonable comparison when you put it in those perspectives.
Maidana is not complicit in bribing Erik into the ring -- he was bribed, too. He's a competitor and he's there to get the best payday he can, that's his responsibility to himself. I didn't say he didn't make the decision himself or isn't intelligent enough to do so, I'm saying that it's the responsible decision for him. If he can do better than "very good money" fighting Morales while risking very little, that's what he has to do. A fighter's shelf-life in the sport is limited and they have to get the most they can while they can. It isn't like Maidana hasn't earned some leeway with fans.
The $$$ got Maidana into the ring, just as it got Erik there ("the money presented was attractive"). A bunch of frogs in suits and a fighter who kicks ass and gets his ass kicked for a living, and you're trying to claim that the latter (Maidana) is somehow near as responsible as those 'masters of war' for this fight going ahead.
**** you, Rado. And that's the polite version.Comment
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Dave ******o thinks it was, look here,
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No, the vast majority of people who picked Barrera assumed that Khan's chin would be clipped once and broken. Technically, Khan was highly favoured and was the betting favourite.
Regardless of whether he was the WBO's #1 contender (like that's a credible guage), Barrera was not considered a live contender. That is absolute horse-****. He was considered blown-up and washed-up, spent, that's why he was picked for Khan to decorate his record with. Barrera's comp prior to facing Khan (after Pacquiao II) was actually much worse than Morales' has been coming into this fight (since Diaz) and he looked bad in those fights.
In that light, without all the deceptive terms you've placed upon it, it's a very apt comparison. Powerful young gun decorates record and makes money with badly faded, blown-up legend. GTFO.
My post above (#33, don't miss it) finds you guilty of exactly that.Comment
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Bump for Dave. I want proof that Maidana made close to a million on his last fight.Comment
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Actually, I kinda see Dave's point about Barrera, and this article has an interesting take as well..... http://www.boxingscene.com/erik-mora...ccident--37788Dave ******o thinks it was, look here,
^^ No, the vast majority of people who picked Barrera assumed that Khan's chin would be clipped once and broken. Technically, Khan was highly favoured and was the betting favourite.
Regardless of whether he was the WBO's #1 contender (like that's a credible guage), Barrera was not considered a live contender. That is absolute horse-****. He was considered blown-up and washed-up, spent, that's why he was picked for Khan to decorate his record with. Barrera's comp prior to facing Khan (after Pacquiao II) was actually much worse than Morales' has been coming into this fight (since Diaz) and he looked bad in those fights.
In that light, without all the deceptive terms you've placed upon it, it's a very apt comparison. Powerful young gun decorates record and makes money with badly faded, blown-up legend. GTFO.
My post above (#33, don't miss it) finds you guilty of exactly that.
The fight sucks, end of story, but I'm not sure what my take on my Maidana is. He certainly deserves little-to-no credit for that win.Comment
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I don't. Barrera was finished at world-class, blown-up, washed up and had looked sluggish against low-level comp.
The only real difference is that Khan is not the heavyhanded punisher Maidana is...hopefully, Erik can no longer stand up to punishment and Maidana will end it mercifully early.
I agree, the fight is putrid. But it's not Maidana's fault, he's a real man and he's doing what he's got to do.Comment
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So, Rado; do you still think that Erik is "far more shot" than Barrera was (as if it's even possible to place degrees on such an absolute term)?
Never comment on any non-statistical aspect of boxing again, please.
I agreed with it and still do. Although last night was a marvel to witness, I don't think the fight should have been made. I still think Morales can't campaign at the top level and thrive anymore, however much last night's performance may wish to deceive. For all his inherent toughness, Erik's body is worn and torn and he was operating on pure craft and character in there. Like Fitzsimmons, and unlike our friend Dave, I place the responsibility entirely on GBP/HBO and not Marcos Maidana.
So we saw that Maidana was unable to end it mercifully early because Erik can still stand up to punishment. Meaning that Erik, while highly competetive, took plenty of it and is guaranteed some extra brain trauma to add to that which he had already sustained from a long, war-filled 15 years in the prize-ring.
Of course, a huge part of me loved seeing what he did last night. It was truly special, transcendent to be a part of the worldwide audience bearing witness to his feat. But it still troubles me that such a fight could be made in the first place. The paradoxes that haunt the boxing fan.
Morales is just...incredible.Comment
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