Most deceiving title defense streaks

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    #11
    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
    I can't blame him or not going to Germany to fight Ottke, but what do Roy and Hop have to do with his run at all, they were in different weight classes.

    Its also very easy to call Lacy overrated after the fact but many ppl thought he would beat Joe, just bump some old threads if you don't believe me.
    1. Some people claim it was Hopkins & Jones fault the fights didn't happen sooner. Mostly the delusion british fans. If Joe really wanted that fight back in their primes, he would have been undisputed way sooner. Why not fight Ottke on neutral turf in europe like Kessler-Froch? Joe would have gave him a beating similar to Lacey & Kesslar IMO, so I don't know how the judges could have robbed him. They couldn't get away with it. How do you have 2 20+ defenses fighters in the same division and not fight? That's absolutely ridiculous.

    2. It's an overrated win though. Lacey never did ***** after that. I say the same thing about Pavlik-Hopkins.

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      #12
      Originally posted by BostonGuy
      Why isn't Ottke on the list?...
      probably because he had the balls to fight glen johnson unlike some so called champions.

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        #13
        Originally posted by BostonGuy
        Why isn't Ottke on the list?...
        I dont have them all listed, this was kind of meant as a 'also add if you have one' sort of thing.

        besides everyone already considers Ottke a joke.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Natedatpkid
          He waited until the very last second to do it. If he really wanted Roy & Hopkins attention he would have did it sooner. Not waited until an overrated American takes a belt and just expose him with his speed. He's a natural born cherry picker.

          Ducked Glenn Johnson 3 times with his excuses being "injury of the vagina."
          that overrated american was willing to fight in europe and was also willing to fight calzaghe unlike hopkins and jones.
          if calzaghe is on this list so should hopkins

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            #15
            Originally posted by Natedatpkid
            1. Some people claim it was Hopkins & Jones fault the fights didn't happen sooner. Mostly the delusion british fans. If Joe really wanted that fight back in their primes, he would have been undisputed way sooner. Why not fight Ottke on neutral turf in europe like Kessler-Froch? Joe would have gave him a beating similar to Lacey & Kesslar IMO, so I don't know how the judges could have robbed him. They couldn't get away with it. How do you have 2 20+ defenses fighters in the same division and not fight? That's absolutely ridiculous.

            2. It's an overrated win though. Lacey never did ***** after that. I say the same thing about Pavlik-Hopkins.
            Sven never left Germany one time and I doubt would do it for Joe so with how the Robin Reid fight went and how he won just about every round and was robbed I wouldn't fancy Joe slapping his way to a UD over there no matter how hard or numerous the slaps were.

            Did it ever occur to you that Lacy could have been better if not for the 12 round beating he took? Maybe he never did anything as a result of some damage physical or mental that was done from that fight. Not saying Lact was great but were a decent fighter at one time who many thought would beat Joe just like Abraham is an overrated bum like I have said for a long time but it doesn't reduce Froch's win over him because many though AA would win.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Spray_resistant
              Sven never left Germany one time and I doubt would do it for Joe so with how the Robin Reid fight went and how he won just about every round and was robbed I wouldn't fancy Joe slapping his way to a UD over there no matter how hard or numerous the slaps were.

              Did it ever occur to you that Lacy could have been better if not for the 12 round beating he took? Maybe he never did anything as a result of some damage physical or mental that was done from that fight. Not saying Lact was great but were a decent fighter at one time who many thought would beat Joe just like Abraham is an overrated bum like I have said for a long time but it doesn't reduce Froch's win over him because many though AA would win.
              Its possible but it's not fact. Lacey was just a good physical presence. He was probably going to lose to the next fast boxer he fought anyway. Kessler would have whooped him too.

              Your still not mentioning anything about Joe ducking Glenn Johnson.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                Sven never left Germany one time and I doubt would do it for Joe so with how the Robin Reid fight went and how he won just about every round and was robbed I wouldn't fancy Joe slapping his way to a UD over there no matter how hard or numerous the slaps were.

                Did it ever occur to you that Lacy could have been better if not for the 12 round beating he took? Maybe he never did anything as a result of some damage physical or mental that was done from that fight. Not saying Lact was great but were a decent fighter at one time who many thought would beat Joe just like Abraham is an overrated bum like I have said for a long time but it doesn't reduce Froch's win over him because many though AA would win.
                most of these people seem to forget that lacy injured his left shoulder after the calzaghe fight and has not been the same since

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by letsgobrady
                  that overrated american was willing to fight in europe and was also willing to fight calzaghe unlike hopkins and jones.
                  if calzaghe is on this list so should hopkins
                  hopkins had 16 out of his 20 title defenses against top 10 rated opponents. he also fought everyone who was rated number 1 through out his reign(except simon who went to jail right after becoming number 1) how is that deceiving?
                  Last edited by daggum; 04-01-2011, 04:22 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by letsgobrady
                    most of these people seem to forget that lacy injured his left shoulder after the calzaghe fight and has not been the same since
                    most people seem to forget lacy looked like crap in most of his fights before fighting calzaghe but then again i don't think most people bothered to watch them.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                      Sven never left Germany one time and I doubt would do it for Joe so with how the Robin Reid fight went and how he won just about every round and was robbed I wouldn't fancy Joe slapping his way to a UD over there no matter how hard or numerous the slaps were.

                      Did it ever occur to you that Lacy could have been better if not for the 12 round beating he took? Maybe he never did anything as a result of some damage physical or mental that was done from that fight. Not saying Lact was great but were a decent fighter at one time who many thought would beat Joe just like Abraham is an overrated bum like I have said for a long time but it doesn't reduce Froch's win over him because many though AA would win.
                      Even before he fought Joe he struggled with C- level fighters...I never understood what anyone saw in him. Dude couldn't even win a round against a shot old ass Roy Jones lol...

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