Comments Thread For: Haye: It's Been Confirmed, I'm Going To Fight Wladimir

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  • Mr. Invincible
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    #41
    Originally posted by dvb
    i really dont mind which one he faces first,aslong as he faces atleast 1,hopefully both of them.and i pray all 3 stay injury free and turn up on the nights of these fights and put in thier best possible performances!.


    i think in view of business,if haye Beats wlad first,he has the most belts and the power to say the split and venue is and vitali would have to bow down to haye's demands should he want to avenge wlads loss and himself become the undisputed unified heavyweight champion.

    I think Haye will more easily land on vitali,with him being slower and less skilled.
    for wlad,haye will stop wlad being effective and land only a few shots,but they will be hard fast killer combinations that will put wladimir down and out.

    it wont be a suprise,wlads been knocked down and stopped loads!.

    vitali is the challenge to outbox and try to knockdown and out.
    Say what? (Bolded)

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    • Spray_resistant
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      #42
      Was there any doubt really, this is an easy ko win for Dr. Steelhammer.

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      • Dave Rado
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        #43
        Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
        It's actually Volodymyr. Here's the link.



        Now, consider yourself owned and see your way to the door.
        Wlad spells it the German way, as that article makes clear, due to the fact he's been based in Germany his whole pro career - and if he spells it that way, that means you should too. And the Ukrainian way of spelling it, as the article also makes clear, is actually Володимир, because Ukrainians don't use the Roman alphabet at all, they use the Cyrillic alphabet. So all Roman (abc etc.) spellings are actually translations and whatever Roman spelling Wlad wants to go with is the correct one in his case. Which means it's actually Wladimir.
        Last edited by Dave Rado; 03-31-2011, 11:25 PM.

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        • Dave Rado
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          #44
          Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
          Say what? (Bolded)
          Vitali is much easier to hit than the current version of Wlad, although he's still very difficult to hit cleanly; and he is much slower than Wlad. He has a far better chin than Wlad, is a far better combination puncher, and has a better mastery of distance and space than Wlad. Wlad has better orthodox skills. Vitali's skills are more unorthodox, but he is still highly skilled. Wlad's jab is more precise and powerful than Vitali's.

          Wlad has much more one-punch power than Vitali - Vitali never knocks anyone cold with a single punch like Wlad does, but he bludgeons you to death with an accumulation of combination punches instead, and most of his KOs are actually TKOs.

          But he's slowed down significantly in the last two years and I think Haye would have a better chance against the current version of Vitali, who is not as good as he was 2 years ago, than against the current version of Wlad, who has improved significantly in the last 2 years.
          Last edited by Dave Rado; 04-01-2011, 12:17 AM.

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          • Jack Napier
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            #45
            Haye has a slight chance with Wlad
            he will still get KTFO though
            Vit would ice him earlier
            good Haye has manned up

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              #46
              Yawn...call me when the first punch is thrown.

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              • edgarg
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                #47
                Originally posted by Dave Rado
                Vitali is much easier to hit than the current version of Wlad, although he's still very difficult to hit cleanly; and he is much slower than Wlad. He has a far better chin than Wlad, is a far better combination puncher, and has a better mastery of distance and space than Wlad. Wlad has better orthodox skills. Vitali's skills are more unorthodox, but he is still highly skilled.

                Wlad has much more one-punch power than Vitali - Vitali never knocks anyone cold with a single punch like Wlad does, but he bludgeons you to death with an accumulation of combination punches instead, and most of his KOs are actually TKOs.

                But he's slowed down significantly in the last two years and I think Haye would have a better chance against the current version of Vitali, who is not as good as he was 2 years ago, than against the current version of Wlad, who has improved significantly in the last 2 years.
                Dave, I disagree with you on one thing.I don't think that VK is much "slower" than WK. He's as fast as he needs to be, slow against slower opponents and faster against faster opponents. None of them, repeat NONE OF THEM can get away from him and he's fast enough on his feet to cut off the ring as he wishes.

                They can only rarely hit him, NO MATTER how fast their hands are, and they can't elude him, no matter how fast their feet are. And his punching speed and accuracy are unequaled in the heavyweight ranks. And THAT, for a man of his size, is really something. he outpunches and outlands everyone, including WK.

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                • Dave Rado
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Deedubbzz07
                  Yawn...call me when the first punch is thrown.
                  Nah, we'll just tell you the result when it's over.

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                  • Dave Rado
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by edgarg
                    Dave, I disagree with you on one thing.I don't think that VK is much "slower" than WK. He's as fast as he needs to be, slow against slower opponents and faster against faster opponents. None of them, repeat NONE OF THEM can get away from him and he's fast enough on his feet to cut off the ring as he wishes.

                    They can only rarely hit him, NO MATTER how fast their hands are, and they can't elude him, no matter how fast their feet are. And his punching speed and accuracy are unequaled in the heavyweight ranks. And THAT, for a man of his size, is really something. he outpunches and outlands everyone, including WK.
                    The only fighter Vitali has fought since his come-back who has very fast hands is Solis, and Solis was landing a fair number of punches before the TKO. Admittedly, you can't judge much on less than one round, and Vitali landed the only punch that really mattered, but the fact is Solis wasn't having much difficulty in landing. Johnson and Sosnowski also landed a surprising number of punches, and Vitali looked significantly slower against both fighters than he used to, especially against Sosnowski.

                    None of Vitali's opponents since his comeback have had very fast feet. Johnson is reasonably fast but not very fast and he doesn't have enough pop to keep a powerful fighter like Vitali away form him.

                    Bird, who does have very fast hands and feet, did much better against Vitali (even discounting the effect of Vitali's shoulder injury) than he did against Wlad. Just look at the punch stats.

                    Vitali lands more punches than Wlad because he's a combination puncher and throws a lot more punches than Wlad does - not because he's as fast as Wlad is.

                    I agree he's superb at cutting off the ring - but that's because he has a real mastery of space and distance, which Wlad doesn't have so much. But he is still much easier to hit than Wlad is, and IMO, he is significantly slower.

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                    • hweightblogger
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Dave Rado
                      Wlad spells it the German way, as that article makes clear, due to the fact he's been based in Germany his whole pro career - and if he spells it that way, that means you should too. And the Ukrainian way of spelling it, as the article also makes clear, is actually Володимир, because Ukrainians don't use the Roman alphabet at all
                      Just check how they write Yeltsin --> Jelzin

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