Who Won Pac-Bradley? Post fight discussion STOP MAKING NEW THREADS ABOUT THIS FIGHT.

[champion4ever]

Just by comparison, Floyd against Cotto was 26% in total punches, 179 connected punches out of 687 thrown... While Manny with Bradley was 34% in total punches, 253 connected punches out of 751 thrown... I don't really get it how a one-dimensional, wild and volume puncher can be more accurate as against a very skillful, pot-shotter??!!! And in the words of most of the Manny-haters around here, "I am so proud of Floyd for standing toe to toe against Cotto", and, "It is really a close fight, clearly Bradley was outboxing Manny in most of the rounds and he was quick on his feet to spin out"... How can that be??!! Floyd against a game fighter while Manny against a quick, mobile boxer, but still gave out contrasting results in punch accuracy... Hmmmmmm.....

So with that being the case, then why didn't Manny KO Bradley; If this was such a statistically dominating performance? Also, you brought up Mayweather's performance against Cotto. You are right. Mayweather isn't known as an offensive fighter, who puts a lot of punches together, with huge punching power. Yet, he actually managed to land many combination punches against Miguel. As a matter of fact, he punished and hurt Cotto several times in that fight, with overhand rights which were followed by left uppercuts that came dangerously close to knocking him out. Additionally, adding this to the fact, that he was challenging a man who was a lot heavier than him. The only thing that kept Cotto from being stopped was the heavier weight of 154 lbs as opposed to the 145 lbs he weighed when he challenged Manny Pacquiao.

[Hougigo]

Everybody saying boxing is dead is really starting to annoy me

[tomhawq]

it's the same pacman, except pac the entertainer is gone. what's left is the fighter. idiots bash him for being just a one-dimensional, come-forward fighter. when he's fighting in a defensive mode, as a champ would, they still bash him.

pacman is sick of opponents stepping in the ring with the sole purpose of just surviving the distance. he always ends up chasing them because nothing will happen and he gets blamed for a boring outcome. in the bradley fight he's motioning bradley to come and get the belt. in the past, he chases them.

[Lords]

The Clottey fight is where he peaked, in my opinion he looked like an absolute beast in that fight. His conditioning used to always be greater than his opponents, where as now he's shown a lot of fatigue in his last few fights.

Even i woulda looked beast in that fight if thats what you wana call it. In my eyes Manny was never 'great', just a good fighter with speed. To me Manny is known for beatin Cotto at catch weight, KO'n Hatton who for some reason didnt worry about his defense in the fight, and lastly for JMM outboxing him 3 times. Im also still wondering why the hell he fought Clottey, Margarita, and Mosley for.

[Da Hammer]

If anything I thought he looked like a whole another level than guys like Bradley and Khan. Pac is clearly not the same guy he's always been but he's still a great fighter. He made Bradley look foolish in there. The Power, Movement, and hand speed is still there. His stamina or aggression though aren't at the same level he was before the Mosley fight. Still I was very impressed with Manny last Saturday and it's a shame he was robbed of a really good performance.

[res]

he's obviously declined, but he could still beat Floyd.

No one expects him to out box him, he could possibly knock him out though.

Not performing like he did against one legged Bradley

[Brockton Lip]

Even i woulda looked beast in that fight if thats what you wana call it. In my eyes Manny was never 'great', just a good fighter with speed. To me Manny is known for beatin Cotto at catch weight, KO'n Hatton who for some reason didnt worry about his defense in the fight, and lastly for JMM outboxing him 3 times. Im also still wondering why the hell he fought Clottey, Margarita, and Mosley for.

lmfao .

[ALG United]

So with that being the case, then why didn't Manny KO Bradley; If this was such a statistically dominating performance? Also, you brought up Mayweather's performance against Cotto. You are right. Mayweather isn't known as an offensive fighter, who puts a lot of punches together, with huge punching power. Yet, he actually managed to land many combination punches against Miguel. As a matter of fact, he punished and hurt Cotto several times in that fight, with overhand rights which were followed by left uppercuts that came dangerously close to knocking him out. Additionally, adding this to the fact, that he was challenging a man who was a lot heavier than him. The only thing that kept Cotto from being stopped was the heavier weight of 154 lbs as opposed to the 145 lbs he weighed when he challenged Manny Pacquiao.

Then why didn't Floyd KO Cotto if you are saying that he rocked Cotto more than Manny did to Bradley??!!! I gave a good statistic and you came back with this??!!! Yes Floyd connected with some solid punches against Cotto but did not staggered Cotto at all, maybe just once in the 12fth round... Manny connected way more solid punches against Bradley, staggered him multiple times in the mid rounds but was not able to KO him coz i think, Manny was not going for the knock out in this match for he was always looking out for the counter, that's why he was not sitting down on his punches more.... But still my argument, Floyd against a game fighter like Cotto came out with 26% accuracy, while Manny against a quick, mobile boxer in Bradley came out with 34% accuracy, I don't really get it how a one-dimensional, wild and volume puncher can be more accurate as against a very skillful, pot-shotter??!!!

[tomhawq]

Pacquiao is still the same great fighter. What fans have been missing is the lack of opponents who evenly split the responsibility of initiating the exchange. Starting from Clottey (minus Margarito), he's always been forced to press the action. I think he got tired and realized it's the challenger's responsibility to take it to the champ, not the other way around. Pac is known to make apologies when the fight's outcome turned out to be not so entertaining. I don't think he had that intention in the Bradley fight where he's often seen signalling Bradley to come in and fight. I've seen it in his previous fights, but not as noticeable as in this fight.

Pac, I think, would be very happy to fight guys like Ortiz. And this fight would have happened if Ortiz is a TR fighter.

ortiz vs pacman would be a hell of an entertaining fight.

[ALG United]

Manny still has exceptional speed as he was able to dodge incoming punches as well as tag Bradley with solid ones along the way, the power may have dipped a bit but i think Manny was not going for the knock out in this match for he was always looking out for the counter, that's why he was not sitting down on his punches more... But one thing that i noticed the biggest difference is in Manny's HUNGER for the GAME/KILL... I've noticed this ever since the Margarito fight, he is still a beast from start up to maybe a third part of the match but tends to get comfortable at the later rounds specially if he knows he was winning.... He is a fighter that has too many distractions, he is the only fighter that is also a politician and now a preacher of god, say what you say but this activities takes away Manny's focus somehow leading to his training before the fight. In complete contrast to other boxers that has only one thing, one focus in their mind... I really hope the lost will bring back the old complete beast in Manny, i hope we get to see that in the rematch....