Who Won Pac-Bradley? Post fight discussion STOP MAKING NEW THREADS ABOUT THIS FIGHT.

[MalikKnucklez]

Pacquiao's never "walked" through any puncher's punches. He's overwhelmed them and found ways to negate their power, but you know when Pacman is hurt.

But for those saying that Tim has never been beat and still finds a way to win...lol...the point here is to assess the ways in which he COULD win...and TS is clearly stating that KO'ing or stopping Pacquiao isn't one of them, and I agree. I'm not saying it can't happen, Im just saying realistically its not up there on the list of ways in which Bradley is gonna win this fight.

And none of Bradley's respective strengths in this matchup are indicative of him being able to win a decision over Pac.

His speed? You can argue Pac is faster, even at this stage in his career.
His power? I don't think anybody will argue against Pac being stronger than Tim. Tim's style isn't exactly the blueprint for how a power puncher should be punching, anyway.
His work rate? (probably Tim's BIGGEST asset) In the 9 years I've been watching Pacquiao fight, I haven't seen him get outworked once.

It's hard to point at any tangible advantages in this fight for Tim. Which is why Bradley fans keep pointing at the intangibles (his heart, drive, toughness,etc.)

[Jose Rizal]

I wasn't talking about them as opponents, I was talking about them being in the elite bracket of fighters in boxing.

Whatever dude. No doubt Martinez and Ward are elite. They're in most top 10 p4p lists. But since we're talking about Bradley here, I'm limiting it to the possible elites he can face.

[-Kev-]

Pacquiao's never "walked" through any puncher's punches. He's overwhelmed them and found ways to negate their power, but you know when Pacman is hurt.

But for those saying that Tim has never been beat and still finds a way to win...lol...the point here is to assess the ways in which he COULD win...and TS is clearly stating that KO'ing or stopping Pacquiao isn't one of them, and I agree. I'm not saying it can't happen, Im just saying realistically its not up there on the list of ways in which Bradley is gonna win this fight.

And none of Bradley's respective strengths in this matchup are indicative of him being able to win a decision over Pac.

His speed? You can argue Pac is faster, even at this stage in his career.
His power? I don't think anybody will argue against Pac being stronger than Tim. Tim's style isn't exactly the blueprint for how a power puncher should be punching, anyway.
His work rate? (probably Tim's BIGGEST asset) In the 9 years I've been watching Pacquiao fight, I haven't seen him get outworked once.

It's hard to point at any tangible advantages in this fight for Tim. Which is why Bradley fans keep pointing at the intangibles (his heart, drive, toughness,etc.)

Bradley's "unintentional" dirty fighting, his inside fighting and his body punching. Pacquiao will look very uncomfortable in this fight because of Bradley's style. You'll see.

[THE REED]

Whatever dude. No doubt Martinez and Ward are elite. They're in most top 10 p4p lists. But since we're talking about Bradley here, I'm limiting it to the possible elites he can face.

You said this is now the major leagues.

So who's all in the major leagues that he or anyone else around his weight can face?

Is it just Pacquiao and Floyd?

If so, then that's the only way to find out if he's ready for it, fight one of them. It's not like he can fight someone else that will prepare him for Pac or Floyd.

If he's not ready now, he never will be. He's had already had two unification fights, and one against a fast southpaw in undefeated Alexander.

At 27, if he isn't ready now, forget it.

[res]

If he doesn't have the power to get Manny's attention and he has a lower work rate, the only thing left for him is to be such a good technical Boxer that he just outclasses Manny.


People around him say he plans to play the short man and get down real low. Best strategy to use against Pacman in my opinion but does he have the skill to pull it off?

His accomplishments are good on paper and he hasn't gone out of his way to duck people, but have his previous bouts really prepared him for this?

[Brother Jay]

Is that a joke or what?

The only explanation for that post is you started watching Pacquiao in 2010.


At Age 19. Pacquiao Chatchai Sasakul aHero in Thailand and the reigning Lineal and WBC Flyweight champion of the world.


Pacquiao has the best Resume among all active fighters including Roy and BHOP. All you have to do is stop hating.

Come on Miron. Now you're just being disingenuous.

Judge Manny by his first 40 fights and then judge any other Top 5 fighter by their first 40 fights and each one of their resumes will blow Manny's away.

Not only the quality and rank of their opponents exceed Manny's, but the fact that Manny also got KO'd by two of those bums only strengthens my assertion.

Let's be real: You can be a hero ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, but it doesn't mean a thing if it isn't on the world stage ... and NONE of Manny's opposition has been world class before his 41st fight.

Anyone can capture a title. Manny has done so several times WITHOUT EVER HAVING FACED A CHAMPION!!! Recycling a belt in local clubs against local fighters MEANS NOTHING.

As I've said, the perfect example of being considered the pride of a nation without ever having beaten anyone of consequence is Darius Michalczewski. The man was considered a force at ltHW for having beaten no one. He held one single WBO belt and defended it in his cave in Germany. According to the Germans, Darius was the best ever. According to the rest of the world, Roy Jones was.

So don't start with that carnival barker nonsense here. What people say and perceive is nothing compared to what the fighters actual accomplish under legitimate circumstances. And neither Pacquiao or his competition were world class before his 41st fight against Barrera.

Keep in mind that in today's boxing world, a boxer who has 40 fights or more has just about passed him prime. Go look up the records of Trinidad, DelaHoya, Quartey, Campbell, Hatton, Judah, Clottey, Tarver, Calzaghe, Mosley, Margarito and Cotto. They all peaked around their 40th fight because they didn't pad their records extremely thick like Manny did. Pacquiao's first real world class fight didn't even really happen until his 41st fight!

Try selling the idea that Pacquiao's first 40 fights are the resume of a world class fighter to ANY pundit, writer or real boxing fan that isn't Filipino.

Good luck with that.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

He seldom KO's opponents but he's fast and hits hard enough to hurt them and make them more timid. Just ask Witter, Peterson, Holt, Alexander and Casamayor. They all wilted under his pressure. That Casamayor fight though was a joke match up.

He's relentless and has the staying power because of his excellent conditioning. But that's just what the doctor ordered for Pac. He needs a different approach when fighting Pac or he's gonna get chopped up.

I don't know what Bradley was thinking turning down a 50/50 split by Khan but Khan was lucky because Bradley would've made him look like "A mere can" that he is. Bradley is really THE top dog at 140.

good to see you again, JR


miss the marquez forum days

[Atreyu Khalil]

Though he's floored a large percent of the fighters he's faced.

It's also a good thing you can still be successful in boxing without knocking people out.

When is the last time PAC was knocked down let alone bya guy with 12 KOs?

[Atreyu Khalil]

See, there was this 1 dude, we called him Sweet Pea...............................ah well you get the point.

And Bradley is a south paw with superb technique and defense?

[Atreyu Khalil]

He seldom KO's opponents but he's fast and hits hard enough to hurt them and make them more timid. Just ask Witter, Peterson, Holt, Alexander and Casamayor. They all wilted under his pressure. That Casamayor fight though was a joke match up.

He's relentless and has the staying power because of his excellent conditioning. But that's just what the doctor ordered for Pac. He needs a different approach when fighting Pac or he's gonna get chopped up.

I don't know what Bradley was thinking turning down a 50/50 split by Khan but Khan was lucky because Bradley would've made him look like "A mere can" that he is. Bradley is really THE top dog at 140.

Though i do agree with what you said abot Tim, none of the fighters you mentioned are elite and none have beat an elite top level fighter.......