Who Won Pac-Bradley? Post fight discussion STOP MAKING NEW THREADS ABOUT THIS FIGHT.

[JK1700]

people forget Manny Pacquaio got the number one spot in the first place by default because Mayweather retired.

It doesnt matter what he does against Bradley, he has to beat Mayweather to earn being the number one pound for pound fighter. Mayweather has been a top pound for pound fighter years before anyone even heard of Manny Pacquiao so beating Bradley does nothing in that sense.

Exactly and even then he shouldn't have got it because Marquez clearly beat him in their 2nd fight. If there hadn't been corruption involved in the judging of that fight, then Marquez would have been the p4p #1 when Mayweather returned and more than likely, nobody would even be talking about Manny Pacquiao. After that all he did was beat two dead men walking who were drained and mentally ruined in Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton with some nobody called David Diaz sandwiched in between. People want to talk about him beating Barrera and Morales twice each but Junior Jones also beat Barrera twice and when Pacquiao beat Morales he had just been completely dominated by Zahir Raheem, losing every single round. So at least in my opinion those wins are highly overrated.

[J Dubb II 330]

I love when posters say "if you think this or that your a moron, yet they don't provide any facts or opinion as to why your opinion is moronic.

Bradley is a better technical boxer than Pac.
That statement does not take away from Pac's wins ( catch weight, timing and match ups do that well enough)
Its simply saying Bradley will outbox, adapt and out think his opponent.

While Manny will use his speed, power and angles, and is willing to trade and overwhelm his opponents due to the fact he has a power and chin advantage over most opp.

If your gonna say Manny is a "better" boxer then please cite a fight where he outboxed his opponent.

[therealpugilist]

Exactly and even then he shouldn't have got it because Marquez clearly beat him in their 2nd fight. If there hadn't been corruption involved in the judging of that fight, then Marquez would have been the p4p #1 when Mayweather returned and more than likely, nobody would even be talking about Manny Pacquiao. After that all he did was beat two dead men walking who were drained and mentally ruined in Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton with some nobody called David Diaz sandwiched in between. People want to talk about him beating Barrera and Morales twice each but Junior Jones also beat Barrera twice and when Pacquiao beat Morales he had just been completely dominated by Zahir Raheem, losing every single round. So at least in my opinion those wins are highly overrated.

yeah they are great wins but a little overrated.

its not who you beat but when you beat them

He already lost to past prime Morales. whom some were saying was on the slide since fights with In Jin Chi and Guty Espades....in the 2nd fight Morales struggled to make the weight and already lost to Zahir Raheem before losing to Pacquaio next.....piss poor timing

Barrera in his prime lost twice to junior Jones, by the time he was 29 with 50 fights he was fighting Pacquaio....after wars with Morales, McKinney, and other tough fights, he wasnt the same fighter he was from 1998-2001 and anyone who says otherwise dont know much about how taking punishment affects a fighter

two big wins but its not like both guys were in their prime

[-PBP-]

Win a close war in a competitive FOTY candidate.

If he ko's Bradley within 5 people will call Timmy a hypejob. If he's unimpressive people will say he's washed up. Boxing is funny like that sometimes.

[Light_Speed]

Alexander was supposed to be unbeatable, the next Mayweather. He was twice as fast as Bradley and threw very straight punches....what happened there?

The Kotelnik fight happened...

Abregu was supposed to KO Bradley because he was much bigger and had power.

LOL get the fuck outta here with that revisionist BS. People were actually criticizing Bradley for taking on a B level fighter.

I love when posters say "if you think this or that your a moron, yet they don't provide any facts or opinion as to why your opinion is moronic.

Bradley is a better technical boxer than Pac.
That statement does not take away from Pac's wins ( catch weight, timing and match ups do that well enough)
Its simply saying Bradley will outbox, adapt and out think his opponent.

While Manny will use his speed, power and angles, and is willing to trade and overwhelm his opponents due to the fact he has a power and chin advantage over most opp.

If your gonna say Manny is a "better" boxer then please cite a fight where he outboxed his opponent.

Pac vs Margarito. It wasn't traditional boxing but it was punching and moving.

[gmc_rfc_06]

He won't go back to #1 regardless IMO.

He lost his last fight and was saved by terrible judges, nothing he can do on saturday will put him back to the top.

[Furn]

I love when posters say "if you think this or that your a moron, yet they don't provide any facts or opinion as to why your opinion is moronic.

Bradley is a better technical boxer than Pac.
That statement does not take away from Pac's wins ( catch weight, timing and match ups do that well enough)
Its simply saying Bradley will outbox, adapt and out think his opponent.

While Manny will use his speed, power and angles, and is willing to trade and overwhelm his opponents due to the fact he has a power and chin advantage over most opp.

If your gonna say Manny is a "better" boxer then please cite a fight where he outboxed his opponent.

Define outboxing?

I consider boxing the ability to inflict more damage to your opponent than they do to you. In which case pretty much every fight Pac has had in the last 7 years he has outboxing his opponent.

[J Dubb II 330]

Yea but he moves in and out in most fights. Just Margarito was a guy who Pac didn't wanna get hit by, he just did what any should do against Marg hit and move. Cotto learned the hard way.

I'll give you credit for citing the closet and only possible fight.

But you weren't suppose to answer lol wanted a casual fan too. You ruined it. Nah just playing.

[IMDAZED]

Most ducks are based on being good business decisions it's still ducking.

If Manny comes out and says I'm not fighting Floyd because I can make then same money taking 2 easy catch weight fights, and I might lose to Floyd and not be able do 1mil ppv anymore. Do you think people will say "good business decision manny, way to go"?

No they'll scream duck!!

Guys dont duck fights out of fear they do it because they don't want to risk losing and losing marketability. No one avoided a prime Tyson, people lined up to get destroyed by him because he was the cash cow. Didn't wanna fight Lennox though, because it's a hard fight for less money.

Bradley didn't have a Pac offer last July when he sat out of boxing rather than face Khan. business wise it was the right move no doubt, but the fact is, for all his talk about how he's gonna win this fight Tim Bradley wasn't sure if he could beat Amir Khan. He wasnt confident enough to bet a possible Pac fight on it anyway.

No, that's not true and in fact it's contradictory. And second, Richard Schafer said himself he believed a Khan fight wouldn't happen because Bradley was chasing after a Pacquiao fight which, in case you haven't noticed, he got. Get over yourself--you really do sound like that dumb **** Dirk. If Bradley was risk averse, he wouldn't fight Pacquiao at all; he'd turn the fight down and keep taking easy paydays. He's not. So the idea that he'd jump at the opportunity to fight Pacquiao and yet "duck" Khan makes no sense.

[J Dubb II 330]

Define outboxing?

I consider boxing the ability to inflict more damage to your opponent than they do to you. In which case pretty much every fight Pac has had in the last 7 years he has outboxing his opponent.

That's Brawling.

What Mayweather, Broner, Bradley, Alexander, Roy Jones, Hopkins, Dawson, Martinez do is boxing

They box first, exploit weaknesses, and if the KO comes it does, they don't force it.