How would Gamboa and Lopez do against Morales, Marquez, and Barrera?

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  • The Underboss
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    #11
    Is this a joke?

    All of them beat Gamboa.

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    • -MAKAVELLI-
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      #12
      Originally posted by Eaner0919
      disagree with Barrera it wasn't handspeed that was ever an issue more than stance. He cannot adjust to lefties which is why I think he would lose to JuanMa but beat Gamboa.


      dunno E...poison jones, manny, khan...seems like he has a little problem with decent handspeed

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      • Cuauhtémoc1520
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        #13
        Originally posted by Syd Barrett
        Is this a joke?

        All of them beat Gamboa.
        They beat JuanMa too, could you imagine Morales in there with JuanMa wanting to brawl? Not good.......

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          #14
          Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502
          They beat JuanMa too, could you imagine Morales in there with JuanMa wanting to brawl? Not good.......
          I love watching Morales fight man, the Morales/Barrera trilogy is without a doubt one of the best i've ever seen.

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          • Eaner0919
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            #15
            Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
            dunno E...poison jones, manny, khan...seems like he has a little problem with decent handspeed
            I have followed Marco since Forum boxing

            Jones- height and jab kept him at bay
            Manny- it wasn't solely his speed more than the lefty stance. If you look at Barrera's stance the straight left is right down his opening
            Khan- bro he was old by then

            Hamed had speed for days and he neutralized that easily

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              #16
              Originally posted by Eaner0919
              I have followed Marco since Forum boxing

              Jones- height and jab kept him at bay
              Manny- it wasn't solely his speed more than the lefty stance. If you look at Barrera's stance the straight left is right down his opening
              Khan- bro he was old by then

              Hamed had speed for days and he neutralized that easily


              true...good points


              you rolled out to the Forum too? man, my pops used to take me when i was in jr. high and early high school...good times

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                #17
                Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
                true...good points


                you rolled out to the Forum too? man, my pops used to take me when i was in jr. high and early high school...good times
                that was a venue!!!

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                  #18
                  Guys, neither JML or Gamboa has fought nowhere near the great competition that the 3 Mexicans fought. Give them time before we judge them. Maybe they'll be better, maybe not. We can't tell yet, though.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
                    Gamboa's handspeed would give MAB problems

                    Gamboa would get dragged into a brawl by El Terrible and get KOd...same with Lopez


                    Marquez would get put on his ass 5 times by Gamboa, lose a decision then cry that he won...


                    Marquez-Lopez would have been classic

                    juanma and marquez are probably of simmilar size today. they are certainly in the same ballpark when it comes to their weights on the night of the fights

                    obviously juanma's body is more used to weighing in at 126 and marquez is the more natural lightweight.
                    But lopez is a big boy. he's got dinner plates for hands, and he's got long arms and big shoulders.


                    if there was big money at 130 he would have moved there by now.. it's only four lbs. but that's a debate for another day



                    to address the OP
                    lopez is very big and the most powerful puncher of any of these guys at FW
                    but he's crude compared to all four of the other men. very crude.

                    if his chin held up to a beating he'd lose a decision
                    my money is on him being stopped by morales
                    losing on pts to barrera
                    and wobbling or dropping marquez at least once before getting stopped


                    gamboa i'm not sold on at this point. a more talented fighter (outside of perhaps pacquiao) doesnt jump out until i go as far back as roy jones.
                    he's that athletic. he's perhaps not as strong and heavy with his punches as roy, and i dont know how well he will do going up in weight at his age.

                    i dont know if he's been pushed, and juanma's been pushed.
                    we'll see if somebody with juanma's class can hit gamboa on the chin
                    and what happens when he does
                    that's why they've gotta scrap!



                    and as for marquez, morales, and barrera against gamboa:
                    if he puts together a virtuoso performance for 12 rounds he's got a slight chance
                    but we havnt seen that yet in any capacity against even the b level
                    and if he takes a break he's getting stopped
                    or working his way out of hte fight and losing on the cards
                    Last edited by New England; 03-30-2011, 03:13 PM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by TheMexHurricane
                      Guys, neither JML or Gamboa has fought nowhere near the great competition that the 3 Mexicans fought. Give them time before we judge them. Maybe they'll be better, maybe not. We can't tell yet, though.


                      i hear what you are saying. they havnt had a crop of serious beasts to fight through. juanma's been in the trenches, though


                      but they are both well into their physical primes at this point

                      juanma is 27
                      and gamboa is 29

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