Who do you think is the better undefeated boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr or Joe Calzaghe?

[The Hammer]

Joe Calzaghe is the better undefeated fighter.

Floyd has been over-protected and is very overrated. He's never once fought outside the US, and he hasn't fought outside his hometown of Las Vegas in many years. Floyd takes no risks.

[Malicious]

lol at all these people from the UK riding Calzaghe's nuts. If Floyd's resume is weak, then Joe's is on life support. Joe was a great fighter, but P4P Floyd is better by a fairly wide margin.

[hugh grant]

Joe Calzaghe is the better undefeated fighter.

Floyd has been over-protected and is very overrated. He's never once fought outside the US, and he hasn't fought outside his hometown of Las Vegas in many years. Floyd takes no risks.

Yes i agree as do most people that JC is a better fighter than Floyd. JC going to America and condifent he would beat BH, says it all. That is like FLoyd ever daring to fight Pac in the phillipines and expecting to win. We know that isnt going to happen in this lifetime.
We know Floyd wouldnt ever dare fight in phillipines let alone expect him to win. Floyd wouldnt even expect it.

JC took the risks, and is therefore a better fighter. FLoyd even asked the ref to protect him from hatton in america at 147 weight class. Come on now FLoyd, you are taking the mickey now. You can fool some people some of the time, but you cant fool all people all of the time.

[Porter's Dad]

Joe Calzaghe is the better undefeated fighter.

Floyd has been over-protected and is very overrated. He's never once fought outside the US, and he hasn't fought outside his hometown of Las Vegas in many years. Floyd takes no risks.

No, Tunney. Joe Calzaghe is not the better undefeated fighter, he's the undefeated fighter you like better.

For the record, I dislike both. But Floyd's resume craps on JC's, not to mention there is no contest whatsoever when it comes to pure skills.

And the argument that Floyd doesn't fight outside his comfort zone doesn't really work when the comparison is with Calzaghe.

[Porter's Dad]

Yes i agree as do most people that JC is a better fighter than Floyd. JC going to America and condifent he would beat BH, says it all. That is like FLoyd ever daring to fight Pac in the phillipines and expecting to win. We know that isnt going to happen in this lifetime.
We know Floyd wouldnt ever dare fight in phillipines let alone expect him to win. Floyd wouldnt even expect it.

JC took the risks, and is therefore a better fighter. FLoyd even asked the ref to protect him from hatton in america at 147 weight class. Come on now FLoyd, you are taking the mickey now. You can fool some people some of the time, but you cant fool all people all of the time.

JC going to fight a 43 year old Hopkins in a fight where he was overwhelming favourite, compares to Floyd going to the Philippines to fight the best fighter in the world, right while he's in his prime?

JC took the risks? JC stands for Joe Calzaghe right? Cos Jesus Christ. The guy was content to rack up mandatory after mandatory, and his pitiful lack of ambition is being shown up by someone like Carl Froch. Now that's someone who takes risk.

Dude, I hate Floyd's antics as much as the next non-*****. But everything you say about Floyd......x it by 10, and you've got Calzaghe.

[Die Antwoord]

No, Tunney. Joe Calzaghe is not the better undefeated fighter, he's the undefeated fighter you like better.

For the record, I dislike both. But Floyd's resume craps on JC's, not to mention there is no contest whatsoever when it comes to pure skills.

And the argument that Floyd doesn't fight outside his comfort zone doesn't really work when the comparison is with Calzaghe.

There are things other than skill in boxing to make a great boxer. I am a fan of both boxers, but Joe Calzaghe I give the narrow edge to, partly because his career is over. Joe retired undefeated, never having been beat by anyone and really nothing was close. Its gone to such lengths to discredit him that Joe C haters use a psychotic judges bull **** card in the Reid fight...watch the fight, Joe won easily, and try to claim Hopkins won despite video evidence discrediting low blows, showing numerous head butts that should have resulted in point deductions etc...They say **** like "Cal lost, I gave Bhop X round", but they dont take into account the blatant **** BHop did in the ring that night in their revisionist history. Oh and then they have even stooped to saying certain fights shouldnt have been stopped even though Joe was murdering his opponent. If a fighter lands 20 punches ina row and his opponent doesnt try to fight back...refs stop fights. Not that it mattered. Do you really think Manfredo Jr...who was blocking punches with his face...was going to do ****?

The other reason I give it to Joe is Joe was far far more skilled than the ******ed black panthers on here give him credit for. He liked to fight. He even said after fights that he could have played defensive, but he enjoyed fighting and putting on a show. Joe always seemed to stoop or raise to his opponents level and like a great dancer...he was really only as good as his partner. Joe wasnt afraid of being hit...im not saying Floyd is, but I am saying, similar to RJJ in his prime, Joe took chances and risks to put on a show. Joe had a great chin, he walked through a viking warriors bombs, and he wasnt knocked down till his mid 30's where he became a slow starter in the first two rounds partly due to age, and partly due to inability to spar due to his hands.

I think the unknowns with Floyd, how he ends his career, does Manny Pacquiao ever grow balls and stop making excuses not to fight or not to give Floyd the money he deserves, and how do his opponents do in the future hurt his case and the unknowns with Joe such as really never seeing him against someone who could really push him and his ability to deal with career threatening injuries give him the edge.

[Porter's Dad]

There are things other than skill in boxing to make a great boxer. I am a fan of both boxers, but Joe Calzaghe I give the narrow edge to, partly because his career is over. Joe retired undefeated, never having been beat by anyone and really nothing was close. Its gone to such lengths to discredit him that Joe C haters use a psychotic judges bull **** card in the Reid fight...watch the fight, Joe won easily, and try to claim Hopkins won despite video evidence discrediting low blows, showing numerous head butts that should have resulted in point deductions etc...They say **** like "Cal lost, I gave Bhop X round", but they dont take into account the blatant **** BHop did in the ring that night in their revisionist history. Oh and then they have even stooped to saying certain fights shouldnt have been stopped even though Joe was murdering his opponent. If a fighter lands 20 punches ina row and his opponent doesnt try to fight back...refs stop fights. Not that it mattered. Do you really think Manfredo Jr...who was blocking punches with his face...was going to do ****?

The other reason I give it to Joe is Joe was far far more skilled than the ******ed black panthers on here give him credit for. He liked to fight. He even said after fights that he could have played defensive, but he enjoyed fighting and putting on a show. Joe always seemed to stoop or raise to his opponents level and like a great dancer...he was really only as good as his partner. Joe wasnt afraid of being hit...im not saying Floyd is, but I am saying, similar to RJJ in his prime, Joe took chances and risks to put on a show. Joe had a great chin, he walked through a viking warriors bombs, and he wasnt knocked down till his mid 30's where he became a slow starter in the first two rounds partly due to age, and partly due to inability to spar due to his hands.

I think the unknowns with Floyd, how he ends his career, does Manny Pacquiao ever grow balls and stop making excuses not to fight or not to give Floyd the money he deserves, and how do his opponents do in the future hurt his case and the unknowns with Joe such as really never seeing him against someone who could really push him and his ability to deal with career threatening injuries give him the edge.

So Calzaghe is better because he engaged more than Floyd? C'mon. If you're going to say Calzaghe is better, you need to make a compelling argument. Cos otherwise, this mostly reads as you picking Calzaghe cos you liked him more, and then trying to fit reasons around that.

Even Floyd's detractors acknowledge he is probably one of the most skilled boxers of all time. Calzaghe will never be on the level of Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Simple as that.

[Drunk Punch]

Calzaghe should have taken more risks in his prime years (before his hands shattered) and Floyd should have taken more risks in his prime years instead of retiring or semi-retiring.

The world has to see Mayweather/Pacquiao, if it doesn't happen I'll blame Floyd forever.

[Die Antwoord]

So Calzaghe is better because he engaged more than Floyd? C'mon. If you're going to say Calzaghe is better, you need to make a compelling argument. Cos otherwise, this mostly reads as you picking Calzaghe cos you liked him more, and then trying to fit reasons around that.

Even Floyd's detractors acknowledge he is probably one of the most skilled boxers of all time. Calzaghe will never be on the level of Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Simple as that.

No, i am saying skill isnt always the most important thing in boxing and that Joe was much more skilled than he showed at some times in his fights. He didnt want to win by one round, he would fight in the 12th like he fought in the 3rd no matter what the score card said. They both have 0's and I gave the narrow edge to Joe and explained part of his "lack of skill" to the fact that he wanted to brawl at times and he wanted to embarass his opponents. I dont think a fighter at either's weight class who ever lived could beat either one of them. And I said that it was really splitting hairs, bothdid everything theyhad to...they beat everyone who stood in front of him. Joe's career is over having done this...and Floyd's isnt over yet and Joe I feel had an easier time in many fights in his prime than Floyd did. I think Joe could fight very defensive, slick etc...but he wanted to put on a show. Its a tough call and a great question. I understand people saying Floyd has more skill...i disagree, but I understand it.I dont think Joe has more skill, I just think Joe to me had gears that we never even got to see and when Joe really wanted to beat someone it was a thing of beauty. Floyd fights consistetly every fight and hes great, not denying that, but I feel like Joe is slightly better at adapting and has different ways to fight people. Im not saying Floyd would ever be down and need at least a 10-8 round to win, but if that was the case im not sure he could do it...Joe I think could.

I am a fan of both, so im not talking bad about Floyd at all, again, its splitting hairs and is that same subjective p4p stuff. If coward Manny Pacquiao finally stops with the excuses and gets in the ring and Floyd beats him and retires, I could change my answer, but that hasnt happened yet.

[bojangles1987]

So Calzaghe is better because he engaged more than Floyd? C'mon. If you're going to say Calzaghe is better, you need to make a compelling argument. Cos otherwise, this mostly reads as you picking Calzaghe cos you liked him more, and then trying to fit reasons around that.

Even Floyd's detractors acknowledge he is probably one of the most skilled boxers of all time. Calzaghe will never be on the level of Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Simple as that.

That guy said Calzaghe would beat Marciano. Can't take him seriously.