Do europeans have a different boxing footwork???

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  • Weebler I
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    #21
    Originally posted by Mikhnienko
    Ya Americans are great at calling themselves "World" Champions while competing against only themselves.
    Let it slide, he's just upset America's best boxing trainer said European fighters have better balance and footwork. The US had a great run in boxing but all eras in sport come to an end.

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    • lefthook2daliva
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      #22
      Originally posted by The Weebler II
      . The US had a great run in boxing

      Let it be known that somebody on the east side of the Atlantic ocean has now copped to this. My faith in evolution is restored.

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        #23
        Oh man I'm done for now...was fun...thanks.

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        • King Ju-Ju
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          #24
          Originally posted by Box"K"ing
          I was reading mannys book and in it freddy roach was saying that the europeans have better balance and footwork and thats why they are dominiating boxing right now...

          Is it true that europeans box differently and that there footwork is more evolved these days????
          i must be slacking on my boxing. i wasnt aware europeans was dominating boxing.

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          • Dynamite Kid
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            #25
            Originally posted by Mikhnienko
            I'v heard Stewart say a very similar thing. I think it was in this mini documentary with Klitschko's camp prior to his Thompson fight. Emmanual said that when he started training Vova that he started with his footwork like he does with all his fighters but quickly realized that there was no need to work on Volodymyr's footwork or balance.

            He said that Klitschko explained how it was really focused on in what they were taught growing up and Volodymyr had it drilled into him from the age of 13/14. Stewart said he has had to spend a great deal of time with most Pro fighters he has trained to teach them proper footwork and balance.

            Watch guys like Tszyu, Arbachakov, and Nazarov for other very good examples. Vitali's is very unorthodox but that's due to his Kickboxing which was his 1st priority until he was about 24/25 years old.

            Lennox Lewis's footwork and balance on the other hand was something that Stewart helped improve greatly.


            I dont think Wlad does have that good a footwork, he's good at cutting the ring down, but if you watch him when backed up against Peter, his footwork looks all over the place.

            Wlad might have good offensive footwork, but defensively?

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            • PinoyKiller
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              #26
              Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
              I completely disagree with that.

              Euro fighters are known to fight too tall cause they fight with a shorter stance, in an effort to utilize their "fighting tall", but its a flawed idea imo, as it doesn't matter how tall you fight, your arms are still the same length, and all fighting tall does, is give the opponent a bigger target area to hit, particularly with the left hook when your coming back out of a roll.


              American fighters fight with a wider stance, which makes them a smaller target area, and utilizes more power because you can generate more power from having a wider based stance, this is also helps develop more of a mid range game, as you cant roll your way inside if your fighting upright.
              Fighting tall does help. Punching upwards can take away power and punching downwards is more natural.

              By spreading your legs, you are indeed shorter, but yes, you can move faster and bend out of range. However, if you get punched with a hook, your balance can be off and you can be dropped.

              The issue with this is, one hand will be further from range compared to both if you were more up right. Also your feet aren't as planted, so generating power can actually be worse off.

              For example, if you were to chop timber, a straight up stance is much more stable. Not many would bend their knees.

              Being bent is much to do with movement than making power.

              It's all to do with the hips.

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              • Dynamite Kid
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                #27
                Originally posted by PepeJones
                Fighting tall does help. Punching upwards can take away power and punching downwards is more natural.

                By spreading your legs, you are indeed shorter, but yes, you can move faster and bend out of range. However, if you get punched with a hook, your balance can be off and you can be dropped.

                The issue with this is, one hand will be further from range compared to both if you were more up right. Also your feet aren't as planted, so generating power can actually be worse off.

                For example, if you were to chop timber, a straight up stance is much more stable. Not many would bend their knees.

                Being bent is much to do with movement than making power.

                It's all to do with the hips.


                No offense, but that comment makes me think you've never Boxed.

                Punching down is much harder, and you can lose power, punching up gives you more leverage cause you can drive from your legs, which is where the power comes from, you have a lower sense of gravity.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                  No offense, but that comment makes me think you've never Boxed.

                  Punching down is much harder, and you can lose power, punching up gives you more leverage cause you can drive from your legs, which is where the power comes from, you have a lower sense of gravity.
                  Umm.. NO

                  Punching down helps you ground your feet where the power is generated from.

                  Trying throwing a hook high up and tell me if you think that is more powerful.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Young Money
                    Umm.. NO

                    Punching down helps you ground your feet where the power is generated from.

                    Trying throwing a hook high up and tell me if you think that is more powerful.

                    Its pretty much an accepted point of view that you lose power when punching down, so I dont know what your talking about.

                    You generate power from your legs, so when your punching up, you get more leverage, cause you can drive off your legs upward, that is just commonsense, as I say, you must be another who's never Boxed in your life.

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                    • eli porter
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by lefthook2daliva
                      Yes. Expressed with precision. That Europeans are as competitive as they currently are is unusual. The norm is that North America dominates boxing (along with most other fields of human endeavor). Nothing more than a statistical anomaly.
                      I assume this is facetious?

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