Is Vitali Klitschkos power vastly overrated?

[.Mik.]

Yes, his power is overrated in the same way Shavers's and Foreman's power is overrated.

With the latter two it's the numerous testimonies of their various opponents who prop up their reputation, with Vitali it's his knockout ratio. In all cases they simplify and hide the truth. Most of the fighters who wax lyrical about Shavers's devastating power not only survived it, but won the fight against him. Similarly, many of the "KOs" on Vitali's resume were either standing ref stoppages or corner quittages, perfectly legitimate ways of winning a fight before the final bell sounds of course, but not exactly indicative of stunning one-hit knockout power.

Vitali's punches are thudding and damaging, but it's the sort of power that many fighters can take, for a while at least. Compare them to a prime Tua for example and you'll see an immediate difference in punching power. Vitali relies on his height, workrate and awkwardness to constantly land hard punches throughout the course of a fight, punches which eventually take their toll resulting in a stoppage one way or another. Tua on the other hand has continually been on the losing end of fights heading into the later rounds, hardly having landed a punch on his opponent when suddenly he pulls something out of the blue and leaves the opponent dribbling on the floor. In the words of Thulsa Doom, "Now that's power, boy."

As for whether Vitali used to punch harder in the past than now, yeah possibly, though he never really had the sort of punch that made me sit up and go "Woah!" He failed to knock Sanders out despite landing a sickening number of punches flush to Sanders's face. Rahman knocked him down with one punch. And aside from the 2nd round he never seriously hurt Lewis with anything he landed. Again, I bring up Rahman and raise you a McCall. Since his comeback he's certainly not impressed me with his power, at any rate. Not that it matters really. He still packs enough of a wallop in his fists to allow him to impose his gameplan and force his opponents into a shell upon which he can punch with impunity. Which sooner or later will get him the win.

By the way, yes Lewis had a considerably better jaw than many people thought. I use past tense because it seems that allegations of his "glass jaw" are gradually being eroded as time passes and people evaluate his fights more carefully. You'll still hear it from time to time, mainly from ignorant fools who think Dempsey would have KOed him, but their pathetic babblings can quite easily be hushed with this fine video:

Joke is, at the time everyone used to claim that Lewis was a boring fighter. He looks like Ali compared to the Klit brothers when it comes to entertainment.

[Run]

Joke is, at the time everyone used to claim that Lewis was a boring fighter. He looks like Ali compared to the Klit brothers when it comes to entertainment.

I honestly wouldn't go that far.

Lewis was pretty bad when it came to jabbing then hugging opponents.

His fight against Tua was the most boring fight I've ever seen in the heavyweight division maybe.



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[Daddy T]

On thinking this over I can see what the OP is saying I've seen several guys take massive pummeling off Vitali without going down or eventually being TKO'd rather than being knocked senseless. He's clearly got a lot of power but perhaps not the really concussive power of a Tyson/Foreman. Wlad on the other hand throws a lot less but there seems to be a bit more meat behind the one punch big right.

[nomadman]

ovah are you a lennox lewis fan by any chance ?

ha ha ha

Meh, he's alright I s'pose.

[nomadman]

Joke is, at the time everyone used to claim that Lewis was a boring fighter. He looks like Ali compared to the Klit brothers when it comes to entertainment.

He's more entertaining than this current version of Wlad and about even with Vitali, though his explosive one punch KO power and tendency to get rocked with good shots every so often gave his fights a bit more dramatic flair.

BTW, Ali could be pretty boring in a lot of his fights. His exuberant personality and playing to the crowd hid that to a degree.

[Run]

On thinking this over I can see what the OP is saying I've seen several guys take massive pummeling off Vitali without going down or eventually being TKO'd rather than being knocked senseless. He's clearly got a lot of power but perhaps not the really concussive power of a Tyson/Foreman. Wlad on the other hand throws a lot less but there seems to be a bit more meat behind the one punch big right.

Right but Tyson nor Foreman never took a step backward in their entire career unless they were out on their feet.



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[.Mik.]

Lewis' style was boring (like the Klits), but his attitude towards fighting wasnt. He used to eat punches and he used to go toe-to-toe. Entertainment wise, the Klits dont compare.

[Daddy T]

He's more entertaining than this current version of Wlad and about even with Vitali, though his explosive one punch KO power and tendency to get rocked with good shots every so often gave his fights a bit more dramatic flair.

BTW, Ali could be pretty boring in a lot of his fights. His exuberant personality and playing to the crowd hid that to a degree.

its kinda true what you say about some of ali's fights actually

[nomadman]

On thinking this over I can see what the OP is saying I've seen several guys take massive pummeling off Vitali without going down or eventually being TKO'd rather than being knocked senseless. He's clearly got a lot of power but perhaps not the really concussive power of a Tyson/Foreman. Wlad on the other hand throws a lot less but there seems to be a bit more meat behind the one punch big right.

I'd class Vit's type of power in a similar bracket to Foreman's. Both guys are what's known as "heavy handed" with Foreman marginally more so. Their power came/comes from general full body strength and solidity behind their punches, rather than fast contractions of key muscles delivered with pinpoint accuracy. Sometimes that type of power has a more debilitating effect on opponents than the Tyson, Wlad type of power, sometimes less.

Tua was one of those rare guys who combined both. Pity he couldn't box for doughnuts though.

[Run]

Lewis' style was boring (like the Klits), but his attitude towards fighting wasnt. He used to eat punches and he used to go toe-to-toe. Entertainment wise, the Klits dont compare.

Well to an extent if you look at his fights with Grant, Briggs, and Mercer. But outside of those in specific he kept that clinching style most of the time.

I get what you mean in he was slightly more aesthetically appealing to people who like phone booth fights. Yeah.



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