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  • #41
    Originally posted by J Dubb II 330 View Post
    That's the problem we base everything off resume, He does have a great resume, that's fine doesn't mean he is top 3. Lets see Dirrell beat him, just not on the scorecards which is disappointing, he looked bad enough against Kessler to get a win taken away, I call it Karma, he knocked out Taylor after losing 11 rounds, But as we have seen that's not a great feat, Abraham was outboxing Taylor for Christ sakes, Pavlik absolutely destroyed him. He has a good win over Pascal, Followed Dirrells gameplan to make Abraham look bad again. so your right great resume, but when you throw in the skill and talent he is behind Ward, Dirrell and Bute in my book.
    Good post!!

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    • #42
      Only one way to find out eh?

      And with Froch's willingness to fight anybody i'm sure we will.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by J Dubb II 330 View Post
        That's the problem we base everything off resume, He does have a great resume, that's fine doesn't mean he is top 3. Lets see Dirrell beat him, just not on the scorecards which is disappointing, he looked bad enough against Kessler to get a win taken away, I call it Karma, he knocked out Taylor after losing 11 rounds, But as we have seen that's not a great feat, Abraham was outboxing Taylor for Christ sakes, Pavlik absolutely destroyed him. He has a good win over Pascal, Followed Dirrells gameplan to make Abraham look bad again. so your right great resume, but when you throw in the skill and talent he is behind Ward, Dirrell and Bute in my book.
        Everything is based on RESUME are you serious??It's all about who ya fought who ya beat,all greats are looked at this way buddy..You may not wanna look at it that way cause ya like guy's like Berta and Bute who have fought absolutely nobody,but that's how a fighter will be judge and perceived..But I can't believe ya said Taylor won 11 of 12 rds over Froch ya owned ya self with that one..

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        • #44
          Originally posted by romebyko View Post
          Everything is based on RESUME are you serious??It's all about who ya fought who ya beat,all greats are looked at this way buddy..You may not wanna look at it that way cause ya like guy's like Berta and Bute who have fought absolutely nobody,but that's how a fighter will be judge and perceived..But I can't believe ya said Taylor won 11 of 12 rds over Froch ya owned ya self with that one..
          so talent and skill don't matter? On the scorecards Taylor was up 7-4, I really don't see where he lost a round until the 12th it was a clown job, Froch hung in there long enough and Taylor was gassed. Said I wasn't a fan of Bute. Like I have said before Froch needs to focus on Glen Johnson and keep his.mouth shut about other fighters. I got one of those feelings Johnson will get robbed again

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          • #45
            Originally posted by romebyko View Post
            It's simple he has not fought a top 5 SMW yet and his comp has been very weak..It's easy to look like ya have some crazy body attack against these guy's who are not very skilled..Real talk Bute was KO'd by Andrade(he did KO Andrade so much points for that)since who has he fought??Why did he not make his case to get into the Super Six??Some fishy stuff with ya boy Bute imo..

            I think the guy has skill,but boxing is not just about that will he dig deep when there is not a tomato can sitting across the ring is the real question..I believe a lot of fans don't like him cause he is just not proven yet..
            So what you are saying is that only top five fighters can take body shots??? And yes he may not be fighting top 5 fighters but it is kind of hard for him to do so when most of them are sidelined with injuries or are tied up in the Super 6 tournament. With that said he has fought the world class fighters that are available. Who for the most part are in, or close to, the top ten. And regardless of what anyone has to say about Magee, after I saw him fight I know that he is one tough fighter. And as far as Andrade knocking out Bute when did that happen? There is no doubt what so ever that he knocked him down and hurt him bad. However, since all he had to do was beat the count, which he did, and the round was over and Bute won. Plus the fact that Bute destroyed him the second time around should end all further discussion about the two fights. By the way how many times has Andrade taken a beating like that?

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            • #46
              Originally posted by disolly View Post
              When you watch the two guys in fights, I think its pretty clear that Bute is better, that doesn't necessarily mean that he would win
              The better fighter wins the fight, to suggest otherwise is just plain odd.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Ravens Fan View Post
                I don't mean to be ignorant but are you really this dense? It is called sarcasm, have you ever heard of it? If not get a dictionary out or if you don't own one Google it.
                This dense? Surely you meant to say that dense its called past tense, you can google it. If you were being sarcastic then fine, i however was just pointing out a fact.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by J Dubb II 330 View Post
                  so talent and skill don't matter? On the scorecards Taylor was up 7-4, I really don't see where he lost a round until the 12th it was a clown job, Froch hung in there long enough and Taylor was gassed. Said I wasn't a fan of Bute. Like I have said before Froch needs to focus on Glen Johnson and keep his.mouth shut about other fighters. I got one of those feelings Johnson will get robbed again
                  Skills matter when used against other skilled opponents..

                  The fight was much closer at the end then 7 to 4 ya might need to watch that fight again my man..

                  100k Johnson does not get robbed,I'm a real man if he does get robbed you will be paid and I would expect the same from you..FYI a close fight can't be a robbery..

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Ravens Fan View Post
                    So what you are saying is that only top five fighters can take body shots??? And yes he may not be fighting top 5 fighters but it is kind of hard for him to do so when most of them are sidelined with injuries or are tied up in the Super 6 tournament. With that said he has fought the world class fighters that are available. Who for the most part are in, or close to, the top ten. And regardless of what anyone has to say about Magee, after I saw him fight I know that he is one tough fighter. And as far as Andrade knocking out Bute when did that happen? There is no doubt what so ever that he knocked him down and hurt him bad. However, since all he had to do was beat the count, which he did, and the round was over and Bute won. Plus the fact that Bute destroyed him the second time around should end all further discussion about the two fights. By the way how many times has Andrade taken a beating like that?
                    I'm saying it won't be that easy to land that kinda body shot(esp without getting countered)on a more skilled opponent..No??

                    Bute should have been in the Super Six why was he not??

                    Andrade had Bute out my man and I'll give two reason's why..

                    1.Bute was down longer then 10 sec which means in any other part of the world that night he would have been KO'd..

                    2.When Bute got back up to his feet he was still out of it,rule says you must be able to defend ya self at all time..When Bute got up he was not gonna be able to do that..I know what ya thinking Bute did not need to defend himself the fight was over(time was up),it also says in the rules of boxing no matter the time if knockdown and ya getting up ya must be able to defend ya self or the fight must be called off..By the fair rules of boxing Bute was KO'd,but he got a nice home cook meal what ya gonna do..

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by luke1979 View Post
                      This dense? Surely you meant to say that dense its called past tense, you can google it. If you were being sarcastic then fine, i however was just pointing out a fact.
                      So, I guess that means you understand sarcasm? I mean come on guy do you really think that I thought I could beat Abraham? And if you want to follow me around and correct my word usage, all I can say is be my guest. But I am going to warn you that you better make yourself comfortable because you are in for a long haul.

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