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  • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    You Pac fans are straight clowns. Martinez wants Cotto at 154 not 150 or 145. If Pac was all that, then he would be manning up fighting guys evenly and not looking for an edge or advantage. How are people bandwagoners in boxing? Never heard of fans having different favourite fighters? Just because we know more than one and like other fighters don't mean we are bandwagoners. If anything Pac fans are bandwagoners because all they know, sleep, eat and crap is Manny. Arum, Roach and Pac have said some of the most revealing **** about their intentions and all Pac fans do is eat it up because the Pinoys got one guy holding a whole country down. I also became a fan of Donaire because I can tell he is a good fighter and has the potential to be great and only wants to fight the best. Isn't he Pinoy too? Now I'm a Donaire badwagoner too huh? You are a clown. If you didn't know already that boxing has more than one fighter in it, you are apart of the wrong sport. Go tell someone else how great Manny is because as of recently, nobody in and out of the sport is buying it anymore. Bet Ring Magazine, ESPN and all other boxing publications that are giving Sergio his props and just do are bandwagoners too huh? You guys are like school girls who act like Manny Pacquiao is Justin Timberlake or something. It's hard to be civil on here, when people disrespect others who know the sport because and they don't agree that Pac who obviously is not fighting the best. Two words BOO HOO. For the record I rather see Martinez against Angulo, Kirkland or any other fighter because I know he has the heart to do it unlike Manny slackquiao.
    You guys claimed that Cotto was shot when Pac beat him two years ago. Is Cotto any less shot at 154 two years later? Will fighting him at 154, a weight where Sergio will outweigh Cotto significantly, constitute "fighting the best"?

    What is your honest opinion concerning this? I'd really want to know.

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    • LOL @ me being shutdown when I countered every single boxing point. The only points I didn't counter were some personal insecurities.

      Yet that same insecure poster couldn't counter my argument...

      But, I got shutdown?

      Yea buddy....



      Anybody with a reading comprehension of grade school. I will debate with...I'm not going to debate with insecure ******ed ass trolls.

      "Yo Lead!"



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      • Vasile Surcica called.

        He told me he wants a trilogy.

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        • Originally posted by empiricix View Post
          You guys claimed that Cotto was shot when Pac beat him two years ago. Is Cotto any less shot at 154 two years later? Will fighting him at 154, a weight where Sergio will outweigh Cotto significantly, constitute "fighting the best"?

          What is your honest opinion concerning this? I'd really want to know.
          Lead already stated out Miguel Cotto believes in himself more now because he moved up in 154lbs and ALL THE SUDDEN hes no longer "shot" like in Pacquiao fight.



          Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
          Cotto is now at a better weight, his mind is in a better place, his confidence will be up, and he now has a trainer..... but, it is hard to imagine that he is up for a challenge like that.
          Last edited by PinoyZoi; 03-21-2011, 02:36 AM.

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          • Originally posted by empiricix View Post
            Well, first off, Pac is not challenging Marquez at welterweight. He doesn't even want it since he believes that they have no unfinished business. It's Marquez that's calling out Pac and insisting that he can hang at welter.


            No way dude, Marquez has NEVER stated that. Marquez wanted 140 or a catchweight, but Team Pacquiao refused and stated that Marquez has to come up to 147 if he wants that fight.

            Coz, catchweights are naughty



            Besides, you know full well that come fight night, they will pretty much be at the same weight. Remember that point - they will be roughly equivalent in fighting weight.


            No dude, I will not remember that, nor will I likely remember anything else that is totally irrelevant. The amount of muscle-mass and conditioning that you take into a fight is strictly determined at the official weigh-in, rehydration weight is irrelevant and can even be detrimental.

            Now, you need to " Remember that point " because, a lot of you Manny-fans are either a little ignorant or a little dishonest when it comes to the weight issue.



            I already said that I want to see Manny fight Sergio. I believe that, win or lose, it will only boost his legend and legacy given Sergio's even bigger weight advantage than Margarito as well as his skill and current hype.


            Well, you can forget it, because that will never happen.


            Having said that, I want BOTH of them to have a sporting chance, something that you obviously are not concerned about. If they should face off with one having an undue advantage over the other, then the lure of the fight wears off for me. That's where you and I diverge. You only want to see Pac get beaten up, come what may.

            WTF ?

            How the *** does that fit in with Marquez having to jump TWO DIVISIONS to welter, when Pac can easily make 140 according to Roach and Ariza?

            See, now I start to get a little bit annoyed with some of you jokers

            I start to wonder how old some of you guys are ?
            " I think it's time for you to think objectively about this issue "

            Objectively ?

            How the FLYING FAT *** is it possible to think objectively..... when you state that "If they should face off with one having an undue advantage over the other, then the lure of the fight wears off for me"..... but then you state that Marquez should have to jump two divisions to welter?

            That is not being objective, that is being totally fkn dishonest ?

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            • Sergio is an awesome fighter in his own right. But the way that he badmouths the achievements of other fighters wouldn't do anything for him but turn the microscope on his own achievements, which would pale in comparison at this point in time.

              Claiming that you want to fight the best, but only those at the smaller weights, is no different from Dela Hoya who claimed that he called out Pac from 135 because he wanted to face the best. It's hypocrisy at its finest.

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              • there's talk here in Manila that Pac will agree to 154 Lbs limit but SAME DAY WEIGH IN. Pac will gladly shut this ****er up! If he's claiming P4P number 1, should he be beating boxers bigger than him. I bet Margarito will slap his ass once more.

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                • Originally posted by ivan49 View Post
                  there's talk here in Manila that Pac will agree to 154 Lbs limit but SAME DAY WEIGH IN. Pac will gladly shut this ****er up! If he's claiming P4P number 1, should he be beating boxers bigger than him. I bet Margarito will slap his ass once more.
                  Honestly I think same day weigh-in should come back...

                  It would be so much better.

                  And, it would eliminate a lot of the BS that goes on with catch-weights, and re-hydration and all of that nonsense.

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                  • Originally posted by empiricix View Post
                    You boys are really funny! So, Pac should either go to 140 to face JMM or go 154 to face Martinez? Anything else is just plain cherrypicking?

                    You guys spew so much garbage that it's hard to outdo yourselves. But you succeeded this time.
                    Nut-hugging ***wit.

                    FACT: If Manny is a genuine JMW champ - like he claims - then he should grow some balls and fight Martinez.

                    FACT: If Manny is not a genuine JMW champ - then he should STFU, stop talking ****, and get out of the kitchen - and is really a natural JWW as Alex Ariza and Freddie Roach confirmed just prior to the Margarito fight, then he should grow some balls and fight Marquez at 140.

                    Tell me genius, in your very humble opinion, is Manny a genuine JMW champ ?

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                    • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                      @ me being shutdown when I countered every single boxing point. The only points I didn't counter were some personal insecurities.

                      Yet that same insecure poster couldn't counter my argument...

                      But, I got shutdown?

                      Yea buddy....



                      Anybody with a reading comprehension of grade school. I will debate with...I'm not going to debate with insecure ******ed ass trolls.
                      Whatever son. I got/get mega chicks, deal with celebs, travel Europe and you teling me I'm insecure of you? Please. You are a clown forreal. You the one coming out the gate talking side ways and now trying to flip it? Only females do stuff like that. You a suspect dude. If you think I'm that bad of a poster then don't reply to me, simple as that but you want my attention. You are trying to compete against me......Awwww.... look at him. Growing up. I don't even feel like it is worth it to talk boxing with you because me debating with you makes you nervous. On top of that. You couldn't even reply to the post I wrote you before this one. Instead you opted to write a brand new post.
                      Last edited by GRUSTLER; 03-22-2011, 04:07 AM.

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